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# 178965 20-Aug-2015 21:26
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Thought I would share my recent UFB install with Voyager as our chosen ISP. Being in Chriatchurch the local fibre company is Enable, which makes for an interesting exercise in that they are not allowed to use the Chorus green ducting already underground.

I signed up with Voyager via their website on 7th Aug. We chose the 100/20 unlimited plan with no voice, at $69 per month for two years. Part of this deal is that the customer supplies their own router. As I has been gifted a Linksys WRT1900AC, I saw it as an opportunity to save $10 a month.

Got a call from Enable on 10th Aug to discuss times for the scoping visit, and also for the physical works and final wiring. I was pleasantly suprised at how quick we were slotted in, with the scope visit set down for just two days later on 12th Aug. This was a short visit and the guys from Multimedia Systems, who contract to Enable, were great and more than happy to work in with what I wanted.

The physical works and final wiring were set down for 19th Aug. Less than two weeks from my inital enquiry to go live. I was pretty impressed. The guys turned up about 10:30am and started the work of trenching down our driveway.






As you can see, we are down a 35 metre private driveway which unfortunately, due to the amount of rock in the ground in Rolleston, all had to be dug manually by pick-axe.




Red conduit going in.


Incision cut in the asphalt was made to get the fibre from the fenceline across to the house.


The ETP installation and wiring.


Splicing the fibre from the house to that which was run from the cabinet. They blew over 430 metres of fibre between the cabinet and our house. At 40 metres a minute, it took over ten minutes to arrive once they started the process.




The finished interior work, along with our comms setup.

I have to say that the entire process was quick, painless and very interesting to watch first hand. Enable and their sub-contractor Multimedia Systems were an absolute breeze to deal with. Great communication along the way and more than happy to incorporate the customers requests for the way certain parts were installed.

Voyager have been equally easy to deal with. Before the physical works started, they sent an email with all the user settings and some tips on setting up a third party router. Pain free. The Linksys was simple to get configured and is working well.

More than happy with the speed we are getting too!!














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  # 1371174 20-Aug-2015 21:26
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  # 1371206 20-Aug-2015 21:38
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Couldn't edit the original post but thought these two pics may be of interest to some. The size of the actual fibre is extremely small, more so than I had though. The second pic shows the red conduit which the fibre cable is blown through.




 
 
 
 


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  # 1371248 20-Aug-2015 23:03
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Nice post and looks like good quality work. Well done :)





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  # 1371534 21-Aug-2015 12:39
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Great to hear a positive UFB install story! Perhaps I'm just bias but it does appear that Enable have got their act together far more than Chorus when it comes to doing an install properly. We had Multimedia Communications do our install and subsequent re-install and they were great to deal with. Glad to hear Voyager is working out, I wander if they'll get more people on board now that 2Degrees have had some many teething issues.

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  # 1371549 21-Aug-2015 12:52
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Great post, thanks for sharing.

I'll hopefully be getting Voyager/Enable UFB by the end of the year. I've been doing prep work myself, digging a trench across the front yard, which they have hopefully placed their conduit into today while I'm at work. I'll be landscaping the front yard soon, probably before they install in my street, and I didn't want them digging up freshly sown soil. Digging 450mm deep in clay wasn't fun though! Will run internal conduit this weekend. 

Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.

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  # 1371589 21-Aug-2015 13:46
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nickb800: 
Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.


OP may be able to specify further but from memory ours (same type of install) is 85x85x35.

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  # 1371621 21-Aug-2015 14:17
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Cripes and I thought my UFB install was difficult - nothing compared to yours! Great thread :)

 
 
 
 


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  # 1371660 21-Aug-2015 15:18
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kingjj:
nickb800: 
Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.


OP may be able to specify further but from memory ours (same type of install) is 85x85x35.

The one in the OPs photo looks rectangular, similar in size to a regular electrical switch. I wonder if square ones like yours were used in earlier installs

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  # 1371899 22-Aug-2015 02:46
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nickb800:
kingjj:
nickb800: 
Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.


OP may be able to specify further but from memory ours (same type of install) is 85x85x35.

The one in the OPs photo looks rectangular, similar in size to a regular electrical switch. I wonder if square ones like yours were used in earlier installs


Looking again at the photos you may well be right. Will compare when I get home.



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  # 1371927 22-Aug-2015 08:52
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nickb800: Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.


Sorry for the delay in getting back to tou. The dimensions in mm are 120x80x30.

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nickb800: Would you be able to do me a favour, and measure the dimensions of white box that the fibre comes out of (the one inside your cupboard, with the yellow laser sticker on it)? Would helpful for me in placing the internal conduit, which will feed into that white box.


Sorry for the delay in getting back to tou. The dimensions in mm are 120x80x30.


Awesome - thank you!

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  # 1387005 14-Sep-2015 08:36
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I had a similar situation, I came home on Friday to find my fibre connection stapled all the way down the middle of my fence. Looks awful  

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  # 1387011 14-Sep-2015 08:52
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asjohnstone: I had a similar situation, I came home on Friday to find my fibre connection stapled all the way down the middle of my fence. Looks awful  


Surely when the job was scoped you would have been told and had to sign off the job using this method?

FWIW stapling it is a perfectly acceptable method of installing the fibre.



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  # 1387012 14-Sep-2015 08:58
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sbiddle:
asjohnstone: I had a similar situation, I came home on Friday to find my fibre connection stapled all the way down the middle of my fence. Looks awful  


Surely when the job was scoped you would have been told and had to sign off the job using this method?

FWIW stapling it is a perfectly acceptable method of installing the fibre.




No, is that supposed to happen ?

No one spoke to me at all about the install or how or when it was going to be done. I just arrived home and it was there.

As long as it works, it's all good I guess, but a conversation would have been nice.

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  # 1387374 14-Sep-2015 18:35
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sbiddle:
asjohnstone: I had a similar situation, I came home on Friday to find my fibre connection stapled all the way down the middle of my fence. Looks awful  


Surely when the job was scoped you would have been told and had to sign off the job using this method?

FWIW stapling it is a perfectly acceptable method of installing the fibre.




I find it utterly ridiculous that the governing bodies have decided it is an ok practice.
Something that was extremely frowned upon in the copper world has now been resurrected as 'acceptable practice'.

Oh well, give ten years and when it has all fallen apart I guess they will have to fix it. I guess it's the old thing that there is never any logic in the telco world!

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