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Topic # 179256 2-Sep-2015 12:24
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This isnt a big deal but i thought it was funny when the customer told me

(Business Customer in Auckland getting UFB install that i organised)


They cut the concrete, laid the conduit, then needed something to fill it with so went down to the local beach and grabbed some sand, shell bits and all, and filled it with that


i thought that was pretty funny, i was expecting the cuts to be concreted back up based on the conversation with the scoping guy, so was surprised when they told
they did a trip to the beach

Customer isn't annoyed or anything its not as if the concrete is in prime condition already


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They should have used some black silicone stuff that they squirt into it.

edit: Actually I am interested to know how they got from the concrete cut, across to the ETP on the other side of the door.




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  Reply # 1378725 3-Sep-2015 08:22
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raytaylor: 

edit: Actually I am interested to know how they got from the concrete cut, across to the ETP on the other side of the door.



yea me too im going to go there today and find out, when they did the scoping they said that trench would be going straight to location where that ETP is, which they didnt do either.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1378760 3-Sep-2015 09:19
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dan:

yea me too im going to go there today and find out, when they did the scoping they said that trench would be going straight to location where that ETP is, which they didnt do either.


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  Reply # 1379800 4-Sep-2015 14:50
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edit: Actually I am interested to know how they got from the concrete cut, across to the ETP on the other side of the door.



so, the "concrete cutting team" decided on the day that they didn't want to do what the scoping/design team+customer had agreed to,

they expect the other team who ran the internal cabling and mounted the ETP to move it all to where they cut the concrete, useless.

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  Reply # 1379849 4-Sep-2015 15:44
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Just proves the old saying:  "It's hard to soar with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys."

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  Reply # 1379917 4-Sep-2015 17:38
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I have had 3 done so far that I was present for and they completely ignored the scoping guy on all of them. Civil/Outside guys did follow directions on one.




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  Reply # 1380468 6-Sep-2015 01:55
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scoper was obviously a retard.

you can see a water/gas pipe directly below budi, why would the civil team cut the concrete next to that

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  Reply # 1384822 10-Sep-2015 10:31
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dan:
They cut the concrete, laid the conduit, then needed something to fill it with so went down to the local beach and grabbed some sand, shell bits and all, and filled it with that


In most regions removing sand from beaches is illegal. Probably not the most professional thing to do, on many different levels!

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  Reply # 1384853 10-Sep-2015 10:52
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so the conduit finishes under the cone?

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  Reply # 1385090 10-Sep-2015 16:26
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Satyr: scoper was obviously a retard.


you can see a water/gas pipe directly below budi, why would the civil team cut the concrete next to that


scoper wasnt a retard he seemed  knowledgeable, experienced and helpful, you can see the direction of the pipe the concrete is exposed where it goes in, which doesn't matter they were going to cut to the right hand side of the ETP then run a little bit of conduit to it anyway just incase


wsnz: 

In most regions removing sand from beaches is illegal. Probably not the most professional thing to do, on many different levels!


Chorus sent me a message that the sand came from a "driveway at a boat yard" and used the "wrong terminology"  so they are covering themselves there.


bales: so the conduit finishes under the cone?


yep, they are just sitting under the cones, another guy came today to finish that cut another 4cm or so because the first team couldn't do that



raytaylor: I have had 3 done so far that I was present for and they completely ignored the scoping guy on all of them. Civil/Outside guys did follow directions on one.


opposite for us, inside guys did exactly as agreed, outside guys did it their way, ignoring what was inside. unfortunately for us, the inside and outside dont currently meet up and one of them
have to redo something.



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  Reply # 1385095 10-Sep-2015 16:33
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i also like this comment from chorus, damn mud!!

"The installation was expected to continue when the affected grass areas have a chance to dry a little so that mud was not tracked over the public walkways"



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  Reply # 1385121 10-Sep-2015 17:55
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dan:
raytaylor: 

edit: Actually I am interested to know how they got from the concrete cut, across to the ETP on the other side of the door.



yea me too im going to go there today and find out, when they did the scoping they said that trench would be going straight to location where that ETP is, which they didnt do either.


hmm - very interesting as you cant just move the ETP in this case, as its a BUDI box for more that one connection (up to 6 on a single Microduct and a 12core blown fibre) and would have been designed to be in that position - concrete cuter in ths case is the muppet

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  Reply # 1385346 11-Sep-2015 07:50
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hmm - very interesting as you cant just move the ETP in this case, as its a BUDI box for more that one connection (up to 6 on a single Microduct and a 12core blown fibre) and would have been designed to be in that position - concrete cuter in ths case is the muppet



hmm are you sure we cant move it? just appears to be bolted to the wall nothing is connected into it yet, all the cables on still on the internal wall just waiting for the installers to finish arging between themselves on who messed up


was planning to tell them inside since its the only option now really, its not going to fit externally where the concrete was cut, and the customer does not want conduits etc running all around the door frames externally down to the ETP as would look like crap



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  Reply # 1385362 11-Sep-2015 08:30
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I don't see the issue. The concrete is already broken. Just lift the piece between the saw cut and the natural Crack and dig the trench. People seem to be allergic to using a shovel these days...

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  Reply # 1385636 11-Sep-2015 13:09
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dan:
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hmm - very interesting as you cant just move the ETP in this case, as its a BUDI box for more that one connection (up to 6 on a single Microduct and a 12core blown fibre) and would have been designed to be in that position - concrete cuter in ths case is the muppet



hmm are you sure we cant move it? just appears to be bolted to the wall nothing is connected into it yet, all the cables on still on the internal wall just waiting for the installers to finish arging between themselves on who messed up


was planning to tell them inside since its the only option now really, its not going to fit externally where the concrete was cut, and the customer does not want conduits etc running all around the door frames externally down to the ETP as would look like crap




The access pathway to those boxes is via the bottom - feeder fiber goes in on the right hand side (@ the bottom) and then normaly a conduit is run down the wall and swept (approx 200mm radius bend to allow for multipule cables to be drawn down and around when required) in on the left hand side (@ the Bottom).   If in this case the box is moved to directly above the saw cut there would be no where to managed that cable routes.  These boxes aren't designed to have cables entering from behind or top ( there is an exception with the top in the case of Vertacasa Microducting which is used in multi story buildings

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