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# 180641 16-Sep-2015 09:08
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So I was reading an article on that most august website Stuff on the increasing numbers of people becoming naturists, I mean choosing to go with naked broadband (Interestingly, I didn't see any mention of the use of 3rd-party VOIP services like 2Talk as a replacement.)  This got me thinking as to whether it is financially worth shifting to naked broadband and using 2Talk (as we still want to maintain a home line).

I see Bigpipe's UFB starter plan is $79 (for 100/20), but according to their website they don't provide UFB to my address (despite me having had it for over two years!) - is their availabilty geographically limited or is it just that their search tool is wrong?

What other ISPs currently provide UFB naked broadband at a similar price to Bigpipe? I'm not too worried about speed (happy with the 30/10 we currently have!), but do need unlimited.

At this point in time I'm not sure if it's really worth us shifting, given we pay $89 for 30/10 unlimited with phone from 2 Degrees (grandparented plan), and most if not all of that $10 difference will be eaten up by 2Talk charges (my mother-in-law likes to talk!) plus there's the hassle of setting up and managing the VOIP service oneself rather than letting the ISP do that. But perhaps there are other ISPs that make naked broadband stack up, hence my question.

Thanks in advance.





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  # 1388421 16-Sep-2015 10:25
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Hi,

we currently have UFB available in Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin, (and tbh the address checkers are not perfect.)  If you live in one of those areas, but your address is showing as negative for UFB then just drop our support team a note through our site and they can sort you out.  
(we also have a pretty sweet offer for people switching UFB providers at the same address- first 2 months free with the promo code UFBSWITCH)

Personally,  I don't bother with VOIP.  I find my mobile plan has more than enough minutes for any calling I need to do, and for international calls I tend to use Skype or Facetime anyway.  





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  # 1388436 16-Sep-2015 10:40
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BigPipeNZ: Hi,

we currently have UFB available in Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin, (and tbh the address checkers are not perfect.)  If you live in one of those areas, but your address is showing as negative for UFB then just drop our support team a note through our site and they can sort you out.  
(we also have a pretty sweet offer for people switching UFB providers at the same address- first 2 months free with the promo code UFBSWITCH)

Personally,  I don't bother with VOIP.  I find my mobile plan has more than enough minutes for any calling I need to do, and for international calls I tend to use Skype or Facetime anyway.  



Thanks for the post. No, we're in PN, so clearly outside of your current areas for UFB. Are you looking at extending beyond those locations in the near future?

It's unfeasibile for us to not have a home phone of some kind - apart from my mother-in-law's addiction to chin-wagging, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of forcing others to pay to call us, just because we've decided it's more financially advantageous for us. Eg, my parents in their 80s will never bother getting a mobile plan, given they already struggle to answer calls on their mobiles let alone use it to make calls! Once all such key callers to us are regular mobile users I can see it being feasible to go without a VOIP line, and even then our home phones will still be of use as they allow two mobiles to conenct via bluetooth.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1388451 16-Sep-2015 11:16
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jonathan18:
BigPipeNZ: Hi,

we currently have UFB available in Auckland, Wellington and Dunedin, (and tbh the address checkers are not perfect.)  If you live in one of those areas, but your address is showing as negative for UFB then just drop our support team a note through our site and they can sort you out.  
(we also have a pretty sweet offer for people switching UFB providers at the same address- first 2 months free with the promo code UFBSWITCH)

Personally,  I don't bother with VOIP.  I find my mobile plan has more than enough minutes for any calling I need to do, and for international calls I tend to use Skype or Facetime anyway.  



Thanks for the post. No, we're in PN, so clearly outside of your current areas for UFB. Are you looking at extending beyond those locations in the near future?

It's unfeasibile for us to not have a home phone of some kind - apart from my mother-in-law's addiction to chin-wagging, I'm just not comfortable with the idea of forcing others to pay to call us, just because we've decided it's more financially advantageous for us. Eg, my parents in their 80s will never bother getting a mobile plan, given they already struggle to answer calls on their mobiles let alone use it to make calls! Once all such key callers to us are regular mobile users I can see it being feasible to go without a VOIP line, and even then our home phones will still be of use as they allow two mobiles to conenct via bluetooth.


Palmy will likely be in the next 6 months - but can't be more firm than that.

Some people would find stopping their MIL from calling them to be a positive, rather than negative :P




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  # 1388453 16-Sep-2015 11:27
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BigPipeNZ: Palmy will likely be in the next 6 months - but can't be more firm than that.


That's good to hear... we're out of contract now, so will be able to assess options as they come up.

BigPipeNZ:  Some people would find stopping their MIL from calling them to be a positive, rather than negative :P


Some may say that, but I couldn't possibly comment!

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  # 1388455 16-Sep-2015 11:44
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jonathan18:
BigPipeNZ: Palmy will likely be in the next 6 months - but can't be more firm than that.


That's good to hear... we're out of contract now, so will be able to assess options as they come up.

BigPipeNZ:  Some people would find stopping their MIL from calling them to be a positive, rather than negative :P


Some may say that, but I couldn't possibly comment!






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  # 1388472 16-Sep-2015 12:25
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Have you tried this company.

unlimitedinternet.co.nz

You can get a VOIP line for a extra $7 per month.

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  # 1388487 16-Sep-2015 12:33
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There is also Voyager for $69, but I have absolutely no experience with them. You often get what you pay for...

 
 
 
 


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  # 1388499 16-Sep-2015 13:15
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2 Degrees basic package does not include the phone line (that is a $15 add-on) Starts from $69 + $10 off you have a post paid mobile plan from them.

 

They sound like they have growth troubles at the moment but I use them and am happy so horses for courses.

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  # 1388502 16-Sep-2015 13:28
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I've just signed up for My Republic and they offer a voice line for $10pm on their 24 month contract.  No idea if they are any good yet as I'm awaiting the install.


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  # 1388510 16-Sep-2015 13:36
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BigPipeNZ: Palmy will likely be in the next 6 months - but can't be more firm than that.


I swear the timeframe is just as far away every time you mention it. tongue-out






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  # 1388516 16-Sep-2015 13:51
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Detruire:
BigPipeNZ: Palmy will likely be in the next 6 months - but can't be more firm than that.


I swear the timeframe is just as far away every time you mention it. tongue-out




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  # 1388528 16-Sep-2015 14:08
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jonathan18: 
What other ISPs currently provide UFB naked broadband at a similar price to Bigpipe? I'm not too worried about speed (happy with the 30/10 we currently have!), but do need unlimited.



2Degrees Broadband unlimited is $79.00 pm but only with mobile discount. I don't think there is any other provider out there that is much cheaper. Could be wrong! 

I was previously with BigPipe (Unlimited DSL for $79.00pm. Can't fault them).

Bigpipe for some reason could not do UFB to my address. But 2degrees could. 

I'm now with 2Degrees UFB, and its still costing me $79.00pm. But I now have a nice Fritzbox 7490 router which supports 5GHZ 802.11ac Wi-Fi. It also support DECT for home-phones + has built in ATA for my 2talk 10 connection ($10.00pm). 

I had to signup to a 1 year contract with 2 degrees though.



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  # 1388550 16-Sep-2015 14:34
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Thanks for all the replies thus far; they've been helpful.

Of the ones I've checked out (all those mentioned above), Voyager appears to be leading the pack in terms of price, but I've heard little about their reliability, service etc. The $69 monthly charge is on a 24 month contract, with the 12 month contract costing an additional $10 a month (but reduces the break costs by $100). They appear to only offer VOIP if you go with their router, and that's $89 a month (exactly what I'm paying now!), and I'm happy enough with my Fritzbox.

So thus far it looks like the cheapest deal would be Voyager on a 24 month term with a $11.25 pack from 2Talk, for a total of $80.25, so less than a $10 saving per month compared to my current ISP (but with 100/20 not 30/10, but that's not a deal-maker for me).

I'm one of those Snap customers for which the new 2 Degrees plans would be more costly due to them now charging separately for voice and making all pay for unlimited NZ/Aus calls; I pay $89 for unlimited 30/10 with voice, whereas under the new pricing I'd be charged $104.

Based on what I've seen at the moment, the c. $8 a month I'd save isn't worth it, given I'd be having to sign up for a 24 month contract; being out of contract and paying an ok amount for fairly reliable fibre and phone means I think I'll just wait to see what happens, eg once BigPipe makes it to PN or decent feedback is available on the performance of these newer ISPs like Voyager and Unlimited...

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  # 1388557 16-Sep-2015 14:47
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jonathan18: So thus far it looks like the cheapest deal would be Voyager on a 24 month term with a $11.25 pack from 2Talk, for a total of $80.25, so less than a $10 saving per month compared to my current ISP (but with 100/20 not 30/10, but that's not a deal-maker for me).


The cheapest 2talk plan is $10+GST IIRC, so $11.50 (it's almost 5 years since the increase. wink)
However, if most of your calls are within one calling area, it may be cheaper to opt for the free plan and add a regional number for ~$7/mth (you get 235 fewer national minutes.)




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  # 1388675 16-Sep-2015 19:38
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My advice would be don't sign up for a 24 month contract. I'm even reluctant to sign for a 12 month contract but I guess fair enough.

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