Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 
2090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 848


  Reply # 1467422 11-Jan-2016 11:01
One person supports this post
Send private message

While I agree with the thrust of your argument, comparing fiber (which has alternatives) with power (which doesn't) is a tad disingenuous.

20715 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4015

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1467425 11-Jan-2016 11:05
Send private message

wasabi2k: While I agree with the thrust of your argument, comparing fiber (which has alternatives) with power (which doesn't) is a tad disingenuous.


I don't think so at all. The occupant of the house is (probably) a tax payer, therefore they have paid for the fiber network outside the property. So IMO connecting to it should be a right.




Richard rich.ms

 
 
 
 


Awesome
4781 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1059

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1467438 11-Jan-2016 11:35
One person supports this post
Send private message

wasabi2k: You get that the landlord OWNS the house right?

And that most UFB installs will involve drilling a hole through the wall from the outside, not to mention other work on the property (potentially cutting up driveways, running cables etc).

Would you be happy if a tenant of a house you owned went ahead and got holes drilled in your house without even notifying you? Or that you were forced to allow someone to do so, even if you didn't want it done?

I agree that 99% of landlords shouldn't have a problem with it, but tenants don't have free reign to do whatever to property they don't own.


There is a difference between a professional drilling holes to install a utility service vs. a gung-ho tenant drilling holes in the wall just because they feel like it. IMHO, too many landlords have a "My house, my rules" attitude, without necessarily balancing the rights of the person who is paying the mortgage for them. There needs to be a mechanism to challenge refusal for both tenants as well as those with "right of way" access who are blocked from getting utility installs by consenting parties who just say no without a good reason.




Twitter: ajobbins


2090 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 848


  Reply # 1467475 11-Jan-2016 12:01
Send private message

ajobbins:
wasabi2k: You get that the landlord OWNS the house right?

And that most UFB installs will involve drilling a hole through the wall from the outside, not to mention other work on the property (potentially cutting up driveways, running cables etc).

Would you be happy if a tenant of a house you owned went ahead and got holes drilled in your house without even notifying you? Or that you were forced to allow someone to do so, even if you didn't want it done?

I agree that 99% of landlords shouldn't have a problem with it, but tenants don't have free reign to do whatever to property they don't own.


There is a difference between a professional drilling holes to install a utility service vs. a gung-ho tenant drilling holes in the wall just because they feel like it. IMHO, too many landlords have a "My house, my rules" attitude, without necessarily balancing the rights of the person who is paying the mortgage for them. There needs to be a mechanism to challenge refusal for both tenants as well as those with "right of way" access who are blocked from getting utility installs by consenting parties who just say no without a good reason.


I am conflicted - the cynic in me agrees largely with the my house, my rules attitude - but I would lose my lolly if a landlord refused an install for me.

What your landlord chooses to do with your rent is none of your business - I'd hope that landlords realize that happy tenants are good tenants and that things like fibre are a benefit.

On the flipside, removing a landlord's right to refuse an install is pretty crazy.

In addition - while I am sure the majority of UFB installs (at least I hope) are done professionally and well, we have all seen horror stories on here. As has been mentioned here, if a bad install is done and approved by a tenant and it causes issues, then is the tenant on the hook?



20715 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4015

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1467499 11-Jan-2016 12:49
Send private message

No indoor running water for you peasant house renter! I dont want the pipes installed because they have to make holes!

Seems absurd? So is preventing internet.




Richard rich.ms

7257 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2313

Subscriber

  Reply # 1467503 11-Jan-2016 12:52
One person supports this post
Send private message

richms: No indoor running water for you peasant house renter! I dont want the pipes installed because they have to make holes!

Seems absurd? So is preventing internet.


how many houses don't already have water pipes

stupid comparison

they are not preventing internet, they are preventing UFB, there are other methods of internet out there.

I agree everyone should have the right to connect to UFB I just don't like the way you make it sound like its a necessity to live



Minimalist
5425 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 387

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1467549 11-Jan-2016 13:22
One person supports this post
Send private message

Ok good, we have covered both sides, let's leave it at that.

Please message me if you want this unlocked.

Thanks.

1 | 2 
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Fujifilm X beats its best with new top of the range, high-performance camera
Posted 24-Feb-2018 14:05


One million kiwis affected by cybercrime
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:58


New Zealanders want to engage with government online and via mobile apps
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:56


Samsung launches Samsung Max
Posted 24-Feb-2018 13:52


CPTPP text and National Interest Analysis released for public scrutiny
Posted 21-Feb-2018 19:43


Foodstuffs to trial digitised shopping trolleys
Posted 21-Feb-2018 18:27


2018: The year of zero-login, smart cars & the biometrics of things
Posted 21-Feb-2018 18:25


Intel reimagines data centre storage with new 3D NAND SSDs
Posted 16-Feb-2018 15:21


Ground-breaking business programme begins in Hamilton
Posted 16-Feb-2018 10:18


Government to continue search for first Chief Technology Officer
Posted 12-Feb-2018 20:30


Time to take Appleā€™s iPad Pro seriously
Posted 12-Feb-2018 16:54


New Fujifilm X-A5 brings selfie features to mirrorless camera
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:12


D-Link ANZ expands connected smart home with new HD Wi-Fi cameras
Posted 9-Feb-2018 09:01


Dragon Professional for Mac V6: Near perfect dictation
Posted 9-Feb-2018 08:26


OPPO announces R11s with claims to be the picture perfect smartphone
Posted 2-Feb-2018 13:28



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.