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  Reply # 1471555 15-Jan-2016 08:13
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johnr: Where is @PeterReader?


Making cynical comments on the TradeMe message boards ;-)

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  Reply # 1471561 15-Jan-2016 08:19
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scuwp: Personally I prefer holidays "off the grid" and am pleased these places still exist. If you don't like it perhaps factor that into your holiday choices.


Ya, I kinda like people to just lean how to use the out of office features. 

I respect that when you're on holiday you don't want to hear from me about work stuff.  We need to use technology to help me honour that respect while also making it possible for your kids to still phone you and say they're ok at the other end of the beach when ask when they need to head back for dinner.  I like them to be able to ring the second someone is in trouble.

I like the GPS to work properly and not be watching TV shows of people risking their lives to save someone because the mobile coverage was so poor that it just wasn't possible to get an accurate location to give 111.

I also DON'T want to read another story like the one about the bus that tipped over on the West Coast this summer and people having to drive 15 minutes up a main highway before they could use a phone.

We know how to build this technology.  It's time we figured out the funding to make it happen, in my view.




Are you prepared to pay 20%, 40%, 60% more for your service?


You would be looking at paying another 200%, 300%, 400%....
To expand the network from what it is now to cover the whole county it would be in the billions.

That was the next thing I was going to say.

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  Reply # 1471655 15-Jan-2016 10:01
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Accommodation places need to have wifi, especially when there's no cell coverage. Not having guests stay, or having guests cut their stay short due to no cell reception and no wifi could end up costing the company more $$$ than paying the cost for a satellite connection.

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  Reply # 1471668 15-Jan-2016 10:14
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As for 111 services etc, if you are going into the back country or out on a boat by all means take a Cellphone but do not rely on it as a location service, emergency communications device etc etc.
Take with you the appropriate devices for where you are going.

If while there you are wanting entertainment take a book, look at the scenery, play some games.




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  Reply # 1471671 15-Jan-2016 10:15
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I have just stayed in seven different camping grounds over a three week period in the South Island ranging from Kaikoura to the Catlins. They all had wi-fi. Some free, some requiring payment - including one where there was zero mobile phone coverage from any provider.

Given that given the geography of NZ will prevent us ever getting 100% mobile coverage, the answer would appear to be to choose your camping ground carefully.

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  Reply # 1471692 15-Jan-2016 10:30
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I helped install RBI internet at a remote campground yesterday (thanks for the self-install option ultimate broadband!)

The campground owner hadn't really wanted it, but finally a critical mass of guests (& some harsh online ratings) has convinced her.

With install costs of $1K or so, ongoing monthly fees, she'll have to charge for access and has added another level of complexity to her life..
So in short - tell the campground owner you'd pay for wifi. Then they can look (at satellite, RBI etc) and see if it stacks up.

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  Reply # 1471702 15-Jan-2016 10:37
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TimA: I had a hard time trying to tell if you were joking or being serious.




HAHA me too! But then I often have that issue.

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  Reply # 1471720 15-Jan-2016 10:46
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DonGould: I should get good data coverage anywhere in New Zealand.


I don't think that is guaranteed by the Treaty of Waitangi. Also, the laws of physics take precedence.


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  Reply # 1471742 15-Jan-2016 11:01
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DonGould: I should get good data coverage anywhere in New Zealand.


I don't think that is guaranteed by the Treaty of Waitangi. Also, the laws of physics take precedence.



It appears he doesn't understand how big NZ actually is and how much of it is pretty much uninhabited, nor does he seem to volunteering to find the additional BILLIONS it would cost.

I know campgrounds who CHOOSE not to do anything about their coverage "problems" because this is how their regulars prefer it. 

Like someone else said, pick your holiday locations based on those things which are important to you. 



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  Reply # 1471743 15-Jan-2016 11:03
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I just had a look on Chorus's map and it doesn't appear Okains Bay has any broadband access at all (not even RBI).

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  Reply # 1471920 15-Jan-2016 13:24
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I know of one camping ground that complained to Vodafone about their impending coverage to their area. They can no longer advertise the "no mobile coverage" as a feature of their campsite.


http://community.vodafone.co.nz/t5/Mobile-Prepay-On-Account/Planned-coverage-for-Cornwallis-Huia-Whatipu/m-p/114090#M16306




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  Reply # 1471976 15-Jan-2016 14:53
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Okains does usually have campground WiFi and the dairy there usually has it as well. Probably it was just down when you visited.

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  Reply # 1472010 15-Jan-2016 15:41
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How do they get broadband there? Satellite?

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  Reply # 1472096 15-Jan-2016 16:59
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The school has remote wireless service so probably the other sites use that too. If you look on the zenbu site there's a posh backpackers with a hotspot too.

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  Reply # 1472346 16-Jan-2016 01:09
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Part of the problem is also the copyright laws. And other laws for when you do something that you shouldn't do on the net. Which makes it harder to share connections in areas where it it is difficult to get internet access. And means internet access is more likely to be charged for. Even if an owner would otherwise be happy to offer free access.

Would it be possible for example to get a connection like the old jetstream ADSL? Where the connection and the internet access were separate? Meaning a campground owner would be able to offer a "layer2" connection only. And then people would use PPP to connect over it to their favourite ISP. As a means of preventing people from abusing others connections.





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