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  Reply # 1523362 31-Mar-2016 14:39
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wellington city council would have involvement as well reading that and if a tree was in the equation 2020?


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  Reply # 1523367 31-Mar-2016 14:47
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to cables.

 

The group that opposed the saturn cables when they were first put in as being ugly said they liked trolley bus wires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

inane:

 

 

 

Haha! the great thing I found living in parts of asia is every now and then you will come across poles that are no longer actually touching the ground and they are held up by the wires!

 

eventually its a bit like a trouser belt, you belt holds up your pants, but your pants hold up your belt with the loops on your pants.

 

anyway, nothing wrong with these aesthetics!

 

 

 

telephone wires

 


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  Reply # 1523372 31-Mar-2016 14:52
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Assuming the Chorus fibre network in your area is the same as where I live. Chorus only extend fibre from the splitters to each house when a connection is made. Before that there is only an empty microduct. And since I was the first person on my street to get connected, Everything was spliced up and, It didn't work. (no optical signal from exchange) The tech's had to go and do something at the exchange. It didn't take them long to fix it though.

 

So alot of work would be needed to get your own connection on the Chorus fibre network. Even if you ignored that you are not allowed to do it yourself.

 

If you are really that desperate to speed things up. Then dig a trench between your house and the power pole. So Chorus won't have to use the power pole to run the fibre to your house. (Would be difficult if the pole is on council land though).






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  Reply # 1523438 31-Mar-2016 15:59
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Aredwood:

 

Assuming the Chorus fibre network in your area is the same as where I live. Chorus only extend fibre from the splitters to each house when a connection is made. Before that there is only an empty microduct. And since I was the first person on my street to get connected, Everything was spliced up and, It didn't work. (no optical signal from exchange) The tech's had to go and do something at the exchange. It didn't take them long to fix it though.

 

So alot of work would be needed to get your own connection on the Chorus fibre network. Even if you ignored that you are not allowed to do it yourself.

 

If you are really that desperate to speed things up. Then dig a trench between your house and the power pole. So Chorus won't have to use the power pole to run the fibre to your house. (Would be difficult if the pole is on council land though).

 

 

He also can't be on a shared driveway or cross a Council footpath (even underground).  





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  Reply # 1523450 31-Mar-2016 16:29
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inane:  

 

telephone wires

 

 

Wow, that's a pretty congested pole. We'd better get some guys up there to give us a bit more line capacity...

 


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  Reply # 1523506 31-Mar-2016 19:03
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inane: I'm frustated as are many others for a variety of reasons, including, the fact that so much of the fibre infrastructure is going to rely on WE poles, why weren't blanket consents drawn up? 

 

 

In most suburbs of Wellington very little of the fibre infrastructure is on WE poles. For overhead leadins WE poles are used in cases where this is the only option and where suitable Chorus poles are not available or not suitable due to an aerial trespass.

 

One of the issues with Chorus poles is that in some cases these involve an aerial trespass which was OK in the copper days but not OK for fibre.


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  Reply # 1523624 31-Mar-2016 23:12
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D1023319:

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to cables.

 

The group that opposed the saturn cables when they were first put in as being ugly said they liked trolley bus wires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

inane:

 

 

 

Haha! the great thing I found living in parts of asia is every now and then you will come across poles that are no longer actually touching the ground and they are held up by the wires!

 

eventually its a bit like a trouser belt, you belt holds up your pants, but your pants hold up your belt with the loops on your pants.

 

anyway, nothing wrong with these aesthetics!

 

 

 

telephone wires

 

 

 

I remember that as I was working at Telstra Saturn at the time. It felt like those people didn't like the Saturn cables...as they were blocking their view of all the other cables...um, okay.


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quickymart:

 

I remember that as I was working at Telstra Saturn at the time. It felt like those people didn't like the Saturn cables...as they were blocking their view of all the other cables...um, okay.

 

 

The funniest of all had to be some residents of (from memory) Karori who complained so loudly that the cable was moved underground. They then proceeded to complain about the green cabinets blocking the footpath.

 

I remember a few discussions with friends who worked on the deployment encountering people who complained about the cables but couldn't actually know what they were looking at, complained about new cables blocking their view that turned out to have always been there, or complaints about cable in areas the network hadn't even been built out.

 

It's amazing what happens when a few people start spreading FUD and others just believe it. The network not going ahead in Auckland in part because of a high profile campaign lead by the NZ Herald against overhead cables was quite remarkable at the time and I still feel Aucckland should have simply missed out on UFB as a consequence afterall they didn't want any additional cables 13 years ago so surely they don't now!

 

 


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  Reply # 1523730 1-Apr-2016 09:03
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inane:

chevrolux:


Haha quite honestly if you had access to the same cable, fittings etc that Chorus use and it was done to the same standards (which lets be honest, are EXTREMELY low) I don't think Chorus would even realise they didn't do the work!


I've said it a hundred times before... putting the UFB network on poles in the first place was just flat out retarded. Sure they can get most of it up pretty quick but issues like what we see with WE are so common. Not to mention the issues involved when a contractor comes to a pole with a 'DO NOT CLIMB' tag on it. Then there are the aesthetic issues - i look at some wellington streets and wonder if I'm in Vietnam!! 



 


Haha! the great thing I found living in parts of asia is every now and then you will come across poles that are no longer actually touching the ground and they are held up by the wires!


 


eventually its a bit like a trouser belt, you belt holds up your pants, but your pants hold up your belt with the loops on your pants.


 


anyway, nothing wrong with these aesthetics!


 


telephone wires



The best way is to insure that thing to cover all eventualities and eventually they can put up an even bigger spaghetti monster.

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  Reply # 1523742 1-Apr-2016 09:19
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sbiddle:

 

quickymart:

 

I remember that as I was working at Telstra Saturn at the time. It felt like those people didn't like the Saturn cables...as they were blocking their view of all the other cables...um, okay.

 

 

The funniest of all had to be some residents of (from memory) Karori who complained so loudly that the cable was moved underground. They then proceeded to complain about the green cabinets blocking the footpath.

 

I remember a few discussions with friends who worked on the deployment encountering people who complained about the cables but couldn't actually know what they were looking at, complained about new cables blocking their view that turned out to have always been there, or complaints about cable in areas the network hadn't even been built out.

 

It's amazing what happens when a few people start spreading FUD and others just believe it. The network not going ahead in Auckland in part because of a high profile campaign lead by the NZ Herald against overhead cables was quite remarkable at the time and I still feel Aucckland should have simply missed out on UFB as a consequence afterall they didn't want any additional cables 13 years ago so surely they don't now!

 

 

 

 

I remember that too (the Auckland non-rollout). I suspect that those people who complained about the cables back then have now realised what they missed out on, ie, semi-decent broadband, so they're probably okay with the fibre cables. I know on my street the cable is undergrounded, but I wouldn't care.

 


And I think when you say "a few people" you mean these guys?
http://www.converge.org.nz/cora/


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  Reply # 1523775 1-Apr-2016 09:56
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^^^

 

That web page makes me feel seasick, plus it looks like it hasn't been updated (style and content) for probably 15 years.


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D1023319:

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to cables.

 

The group that opposed the saturn cables when they were first put in as being ugly said they liked trolley bus wires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of the best things wellington council did was set a single cable maximum diameter to 100mm.

 

That meant city link was able to establish itself without too much trouble by cable lacing itself to all the trolly bus infrastructure.





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  Reply # 1523830 1-Apr-2016 11:07
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raytaylor:

 

D1023319:

 

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder when it comes to cables.

 

The group that opposed the saturn cables when they were first put in as being ugly said they liked trolley bus wires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of the best things wellington council did was set a single cable maximum diameter to 100mm.

 

That meant city link was able to establish itself without too much trouble by cable lacing itself to all the trolly bus infrastructure.

 

 

 

 

isn't the Trolly Bus network going soon?





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  Reply # 1523949 1-Apr-2016 13:23
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Sadly, yes. A rather short-sighted decision (in my opinion).


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