Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 
7678 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2527

Subscriber

  Reply # 1529190 9-Apr-2016 20:03
4 people support this post
Send private message

Jamie, TBH you need to slow down a little and try one step at a time, and really you have no idea how a fibre connection will function till you actually try it.

 

My suggestion is:

 

1. apply for fibre 100/20, its no worse than what you have now so really you should be no worse off, it could actually be the solution.
2. get fibre installed, keep cable for a month after you get fibre3. test the fibre connection on your devices, both wired and wireless, remember you get a new router with your fibre connection so see if that also helps. see if its better or worse over one or the other
4. if its still not as good as you want and based on what you find with the wired vs wireless in 3, you will either need a faster connection, or a new laptop (or an upgraded wireless adapter or a USB3 wired stick as mentioned)

 

dont over complicate things :)


'That VDSL Cat'
8117 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1694

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  Reply # 1529209 9-Apr-2016 20:25
Send private message

michaelmurfy:

 

To top your post here is a device sitting on 2.4GHz WiFi - thankfully it is my only 2.4GHz device (this image will update every 5mins):

 

 

WiFi is terrible but for my current house it is the only real option since rented. This is why I have invested in upgrading all my devices to 5GHz WiFi + adding a decent AP.

 

 

 

 

Heh, i did cherry pick out a spike few 2.2 Seconds spikes! I suspect that could have been an accesspoint dropping by human interference and it roaming onto an alternative path.

 

 

 

That graph though, you can see the waves, thats impressive.





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.


5116 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1066

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1530290 11-Apr-2016 22:06
Send private message

Jamie1990:

 

I have two computers for my work,

If my laptop supports Ethernet LAN 10/100MBit does that mean if I was to get fibre 20/200 .. 20Mbps Upload 200 mbps Down

 

or 200/200 

would I not be able to run these speeds on my laptop?

sorry if thats a simple question. and I sound dumb!


 

The laptop is basic maybe 2 years old,

 

just easier around the house at times, ok it says...

 

 

 

  • Network: WLAN 802.11 ac / b / g / n, Fast Ethernet LAN, Bluetooth 4.0

So if I had Fibre 200/20 I could only run 100/10 through the laptop? would it still work?

 

 

 

my other question, is can Fibre 100/20 or 200/200 be run from modem to computer with ethernet cable instead of WiFi or is it not set up like that

 

Thanks

 

Jamie

 

 

If your laptop really supports those WiFi standards, you might find it goes faster via WiFi than it does via wired ethernet. 

 

802.11n should max at 450mbps 

 

802.11ac should max at 1.3gbps

 

If you use wifi on either of those standards, it should be faster than ethernet - provided you have good wifi reception between the laptop and the router. Of course, the router has to support these, too. 

 

 





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


5116 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1066

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1530292 11-Apr-2016 22:09
Send private message

hio77:

 

if you go with 100/20 fibre, you will likely see 95/20. 200/200 you will see about 95/95 - i say about as overheads depends on a few things.

 

on a gbit connection you would see about a maximum 100/20 or 200/200 (could be slightly slower depending on a few factors ofcouse)

 

 

 

Somewhat disapointed to see a 100mbit network card on a laptop like that.. its reasonable recent, and they are not a expensive bit to add.

 

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=NETDLK1312&name=D-Link-DUB-1312-USB3.0-to-Gigabit-Ethernet-Adapter Here is exactly what you would want, simple plug and go.

 

The modem Spark provide will have 4 ports on it, Which should fit you fine. A gbit Ethernet switch would be an easy supplement if you need extra ports. 

 

 

Many laptops don't even have cabled ethernet anymore (I have two that don't). The wifi is now so fast that it's almost always faster than 100mbps ethernet. 





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


'That VDSL Cat'
8117 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1694

Trusted
Spark
Subscriber

  Reply # 1530311 11-Apr-2016 22:22
Send private message

Linuxluver:

 

 

 

Many laptops don't even have cabled ethernet anymore (I have two that don't). The wifi is now so fast that it's almost always faster than 100mbps ethernet. 

 

 

 

 

That may be so, but it is still an interface that can have far too many variables to it for my liking..

 

 

 

Linuxluver:

 

 

 

If your laptop really supports those WiFi standards, you might find it goes faster via WiFi than it does via wired ethernet. 

 

802.11n should max at 450mbps 

 

802.11ac should max at 1.3gbps

 

If you use wifi on either of those standards, it should be faster than ethernet - provided you have good wifi reception between the laptop and the router. Of course, the router has to support these, too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Careful with a statement like this especially with the cheaper end of the market.. many laptops will state they are 'n compliant' but only support 20mhz 2.4ghz therefore 150mbit max. If you consider duplex with such a device...

 

 

 

Nobody has said wireless wouldnt be faster than 100mbit, simply that there are a ton of variables at play and the OP is trying to have a consistent experience. 





#include <std_disclaimer>

 

Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.


21244 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4273

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1530318 11-Apr-2016 22:32
Send private message

hio77:

 

Careful with a statement like this especially with the cheaper end of the market.. many laptops will state they are 'n compliant' but only support 20mhz 2.4ghz therefore 150mbit max. If you consider duplex with such a device...

 

 

72 for 20Mhz single chain. Barely any better than g for the link speed, infact slower than the 108 megabit G stuff that a few brands did. But performance is way better than g even when crippled with one antenna and a narrow channel.





Richard rich.ms

7678 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2527

Subscriber

  Reply # 1530391 12-Apr-2016 07:14
One person supports this post
Send private message

hio77:

 

Linuxluver:

 

 

 

Many laptops don't even have cabled ethernet anymore (I have two that don't). The wifi is now so fast that it's almost always faster than 100mbps ethernet. 

 

 

 

 

That may be so, but it is still an interface that can have far too many variables to it for my liking..

 

 

 

Linuxluver:

 

 

 

If your laptop really supports those WiFi standards, you might find it goes faster via WiFi than it does via wired ethernet. 

 

802.11n should max at 450mbps 

 

802.11ac should max at 1.3gbps

 

If you use wifi on either of those standards, it should be faster than ethernet - provided you have good wifi reception between the laptop and the router. Of course, the router has to support these, too. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Careful with a statement like this especially with the cheaper end of the market.. many laptops will state they are 'n compliant' but only support 20mhz 2.4ghz therefore 150mbit max. If you consider duplex with such a device...

 

 

 

Nobody has said wireless wouldnt be faster than 100mbit, simply that there are a ton of variables at play and the OP is trying to have a consistent experience. 

 

 

and on that how many laptops have dual or triple chain AC wifi?

 

Also with overheads you wont see anywhere near that speed, i have a single chain AC card in my laptop, and my router is dual chain and the fastest its gone is about 240mbps with full signal and a 433mbps connection rate




42 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  Reply # 1533952 16-Apr-2016 14:05
Send private message

Sorry for the belated reply,

 

Finally made the jump! signed up with Spark, cause they had a great deal for Fibre! (said it will take around 3-5 weeks for the install)

 

so my 12 month Vodafone contract runs out on the 29 April (this month) =) so should I not tell them im switching yet and just pay the extra month starting on the 29 April to 29 May ( price of bill will more than likely go up for that month? correct? since I am out of contract!, but i've read alot of ISP companies

 

you need to give them 30 days notice for disconnecting services so if I don't let them know  for another 4 weeks now, then will I have to pay for 29 April -29 May and 29- May to 29 June? 2 extra months?

 

because I have Telephone/Broadband and Sky with Vodafone .. could I cancel my Sky TV on the 29th April so I don't get charged extra month for that also? or would they need 30 days notice for TV also?

 

( most likely will be signin up with SKY Tv directly next couple weeks )

 

Thanks for all the great replies over the last week and helping me make the right decision and move to Fibre =)

 

Jamie


1551 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 386


  Reply # 1533958 16-Apr-2016 14:42
Send private message

Don't contact your old ISP. Your new one will do that for you.


1479 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 553


  Reply # 1533961 16-Apr-2016 14:51
Send private message

There is often delays for fibre install so it's not a good idea to cancel your existing internet until your fibre is installed and working. And you'll have to tell your old provider yourself since it's a technology switch.


21244 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4273

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1533970 16-Apr-2016 15:06
One person supports this post
Send private message

MadEngineer:

Don't contact your old ISP. Your new one will do that for you.



Not when it's a different technology they won't. Cable to fiber will just leave a cable connection in and being charged for unless you tell Vodafone to disconnect it.




Richard rich.ms

7678 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2527

Subscriber

  Reply # 1533979 16-Apr-2016 15:15
2 people support this post
Send private message

dont call vodafone and cancel the cable UNTIL the fibre is in and working, then you can give your 30 days, and you just pay for the extra month. Its great piece of mind knowing you will still have a service while waiting on the new one


1 | 2 
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Hawaiki Transpacific cable ready-for-service
Posted 20-Jul-2018 11:29


Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central launches
Posted 10-Jul-2018 10:40


Spark completes first milestone in voice platform upgrade
Posted 10-Jul-2018 09:36


Microsoft ices heated developers
Posted 6-Jul-2018 20:16


PB Technologies charged for its extended warranties and warned for bait advertising
Posted 3-Jul-2018 15:45


Almost 20,000 people claim credits from Spark
Posted 29-Jun-2018 10:40


Cove sells NZ's first insurance policy via chatbot
Posted 25-Jun-2018 10:04


N4L helping TAKA Trust bridge the digital divide for Lower Hutt students
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:08


Winners Announced for 2018 CIO Awards
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:03


Logitech Rally sets new standard for USB-connected video conference cameras
Posted 18-Jun-2018 09:27


Russell Stanners steps down as Vodafone NZ CEO
Posted 12-Jun-2018 09:13


Intergen recognised as 2018 Microsoft Country Partner of the Year for New Zealand
Posted 12-Jun-2018 08:00


Finalists Announced For Microsoft NZ Partner Awards
Posted 6-Jun-2018 15:12


Vocus Group and Vodafone announce joint venture to accelerate fibre innovation
Posted 5-Jun-2018 10:52


Kogan.com to launch Kogan Mobile in New Zealand
Posted 4-Jun-2018 14:34



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.