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  Reply # 1603711 3-Aug-2016 16:43
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IMO fiber should be the LL's responsibility to concent to the install if the tenant requests it, and anything over the basic chorus install should be paid for by the property owner.





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  Reply # 1603722 3-Aug-2016 16:56
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IMO fiber should be the LL's responsibility to concent to the install if the tenant requests it, and anything over the basic chorus install should be paid for by the property owner.

 

 

 

 

Although what is 'basi'c, as basic still has to to be fit for purpose, and quality installs seem to differ between contractors. eg if the basic install breaks , or if they have installed it only a few CM under a garden and it is chopped by a spade by the property owner when they do gardening that isn't a good install. But as Chorus owns the line into the house anyway (guessing they have an easement?), as far as I am aware, they are responsible for keeping it maintained.


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  Reply # 1603728 3-Aug-2016 17:07
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Basic would surely be about compliance with published installation standards? It should also include complying with any legally enforceable requirements appended to the relevant land parcels - e.g. resource consent conditions, building permit conditions, easements, covenants, body corp rules.





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  Reply # 1603734 3-Aug-2016 17:20
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I would also say fitting in with the way the rest of the property is maintained. No point doing a top end install with nice hidden cable runs etc when the place is maintained like a dump.





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  Reply # 1604430 4-Aug-2016 17:35
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Basic would surely be about compliance with published installation standards? It should also include complying with any legally enforceable requirements appended to the relevant land parcels - e.g. resource consent conditions, building permit conditions, easements, covenants, body corp rules.

 

 

 

 

It would be interesting to know if that was the case, as some of these developers (who seem to think they are god) put some crazy covenants on properties, and I mean crazy. I wouldn't think that third party service providers should foot the bill for those extra requirements, as they haven't agreed to them, the land owner has. Eg a covenant may say that all services must be buried at least 2 metres deep etc and encased in concrete.


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  Reply # 1604983 5-Aug-2016 13:05
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I have had a number of shared driveways (ROW) and MDUs where I have said they will not sign consent until they have done the design.

 

I am actually in the habit now of advising Chorus of this to ensure the design is actually acceptable otherwise you often don't see the design at all.
They managed to miss 3 houses off my ROW at home, so had to redesign it.

 

Chorus / Wilson Hurst (who manage ROW consents) and UCG (MDU consent, design and build) have been fine about it.


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  Reply # 1611893 15-Aug-2016 13:10
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Kind of relevant to the thread. I live (rented) up a shared driveway with 3 other houses (4 different owners, 3 of them rented and 1 owner occupied). Fibre had been put into our street but obviously not up the driveway. The landlords of one of the other houses knocked on the door a couple of months or so ago asking about it so we asked our landlords who said they were fine with it. Then didn't hear any more (I haven't got around to ordering it yet). Was away last week and got back last night and seems Chorus have been over the last week so I guess the house that asked have ordered it and Chorus got all the consents. Looks like they attached a plastic pipe up the side of the fence up the driveway containing all the cables rather than digging anything up and have installed a box and cabling on the outside of each house.

 

Didn't realise they would do anything to our house if we hadn't ordered it so I guess they just did all the outside work while they were there since they had consent for each. Hopefully means when we order it the process may be quicker if they only need to do the internal stuff. This is in Johnsonville, Wellington.


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  Reply # 1611949 15-Aug-2016 14:30
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Didn't realise they would do anything to our house if we hadn't ordered it so I guess they just did all the outside work while they were there since they had consent for each. Hopefully means when we order it the process may be quicker if they only need to do the internal stuff. This is in Johnsonville, Wellington.

 

 

You are correct. When you order fibre for yourself it should proceed straigh to an install appointment as all the design/build work for the property has been done. They just need to install the ONT and duct it back to the point of entry of your house, then blow the fibre from the cabinet and you should be up and running.





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  Reply # 1612019 15-Aug-2016 15:35
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Cool, thanks for that. I assume they won't have to ask for our landlord's consent again then since it's already been given or would there be another form to sign for the internal work? Not that it would be an issue I guess, but just take a bit more time for the red tape to be done.


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  Reply # 1612712 16-Aug-2016 20:03
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The form they get you to sign for the work in the house can be signed for by the tenant as long as you have approval from the owner.

 

 

 

"I confirm that:  ... If I am not the owner of the property, I have obtained the consent of the owner for the installation works..."

 

https://www.chorus.co.nz/file/71410/NDF-240-Ultra-Fast-Broadband-Installation-Consent-Form.pdf

 

 


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