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Topic # 199110 4-Aug-2016 20:20

For the last few years I've been lucky enough to have cheap internet access however now that has ended and I'm stunned that I will have to pay almost $100 to have an unlimited plan just for an ADSL connection

When did internet access become so expensive, yes speed and data caps have increased over the years but the price of internet has doubled since 2008 when the price of technology has becoming cheaper. Wasn't the unbundling of Telecoms fixed network supposed to make it cheaper for us all?

Mobile prices have gone down so why hasn't broadband done the same?

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Reply # 1604584 4-Aug-2016 20:30

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Year circa 2000

400MB $49

Modem rental aout $20?

ISP fee about $20?

yeah, unlimited sux.

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Reply # 1604589 4-Aug-2016 20:38

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Bigpipe - $79

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Reply # 1604590 4-Aug-2016 20:38

$79 gets you 100Mbps unlimited no contract. I'm happy.

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Reply # 1604614 4-Aug-2016 21:02

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On the other hand our Internet is so much better than what they have in Australia...

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Reply # 1604619 4-Aug-2016 21:07

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freitasm:

On the other hand our Internet is so much better than what they have in Australia...

And the US

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Reply # 1604620 4-Aug-2016 21:08

Unfortunately I can only get ADSL, VDSL isn't available although UFB is supposed to be installed before the end of the year. I guess i will have to shop around it still makes no sense how with some ISP's like 2D that ADSL, VDSL and UFB are all the same price.

Re Australia yes that is very true

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Reply # 1604622 4-Aug-2016 21:11

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Internet in NZ has so many fixed costs involved with it before ISP's even start paying for the bandwidth and support related costs.

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Reply # 1604624 4-Aug-2016 21:12

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BTR:

Unfortunately I can only get ADSL, VDSL isn't available although UFB is supposed to be installed before the end of the year. I guess i will have to shop around it still makes no sense how with some ISP's like 2D that ADSL, VDSL and UFB are all the same price.

Re Australia yes that is very true

On a cost basis, it does make sense. Did you realise that Chorus charge the same for an ADSL and a Fibre connection, and in fact charge more for a VDSL connection than Fibre?

Cheers - N

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Reply # 1604626 4-Aug-2016 21:14

BTR:

For the last few years I've been lucky enough to have cheap internet access however now that has ended and I'm stunned that I will have to pay almost $100 to have an unlimited plan just for an ADSL connection

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Which ISP charges that much for ADSL?

Is this for naked ADSL, or is telephone included?

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Reply # 1604630 4-Aug-2016 21:23

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BTR:

the price of internet has doubled since 2008

And where did you get this from?

Back in 2008 you could get 10GB of broadband + phone from Telecom for $99 ($111.28 in today's dollars).

Today $104.99 will get you unlimited broadband + phone.

So you pay less and get infinitely more data.

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Reply # 1604632 4-Aug-2016 21:23

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I would say that is more of a perception than reality. I think factoring in speed, data cap and price, our internet is better value than it ever has been. We're currently paying a similar cost for 100/20 unlimited fibre as for our old 6/1 ADSL connection with 100GB of data so really we are much better off than we were in the past.

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Reply # 1604762 5-Aug-2016 08:35

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Talkiet: On a cost basis, it does make sense. Did you realise that Chorus charge the same for an ADSL and a Fibre connection, and in fact charge more for a VDSL connection than Fibre?

Cheers - N

...which seems particularly unfair if you're in an area where there's no fibre yet.

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Reply # 1604851 5-Aug-2016 10:02

I'm paying $79 for Unlimited 100/20 reliable and low-ping fibre (Thanks Bigpipe!).

Cheapest I've paid for home connectivity for ever. I don't have a landline, and my Wife is on a $16/month Skinny pre pay plan. I have a work phone with unlimited minutes and texts too.

I have had Dial up, IHUG satellite, Jetstart (256kbps!), JetStream, DSL and now Fibre. All, perhaps excepting Dial Up, cost me more per month and had restrictive data caps (80GB is I think where I ended up with DSL).

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Reply # 1604852 5-Aug-2016 10:09

tdgeek:

freitasm:

On the other hand our Internet is so much better than what they have in Australia...

And the US

Not really. It's like NZ, it depends on where you live. Not everyone is getting this wonderful unlimited broadband and best case deals.

I lived in the US around 2007, and paid double digits for unlimited broadband through comcast (although they did at some point admit they got pissy if people used over 250GB a month). Speed was capped at 1MB/s I think and was reliable. That's still better than what some people get 7 years later, in NZ.

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Reply # 1604856 5-Aug-2016 10:17

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I arrived in NZ in 2005 and signed up for Telstra cable which I think was @10 Mbs with a 10Gb cap. Cost was over $100. Now on 2 Degrees UFB 100 Mb Unlimited cost under $100. So I think the OPs perception is a bit skewed.

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