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  #1735309 12-Mar-2017 14:55
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But not if you use VOIP - as we do for both our home and our business numbers. trap for young players - and us older ones as well.

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  #1735313 12-Mar-2017 15:07
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I'm sure that's doable too - you *should* theoretically be able use a Cisco spa112 or similar ata device


 
 
 
 




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  #1735326 12-Mar-2017 15:40
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I think I used that or similar before - until we went fibre. There was a delay to switching the VOIP - so for a week or two we ran the box connected to the new router. So I know it works OK - but Inspire only does VOIP through their locked routers. Would have swung my decision to the other short-listed ISP had I known this at the time.



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  #1735329 12-Mar-2017 15:52
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The ISP already use WPA2-PSK. The printer is from back in the days before WIFI - at last for printers. My imagination's running crazy picturing us getting covered in print jobs being sent down our hall via WIFI - but it doesn't have WIFI capabilities.

Interesting (in a sad way) to hear of similar problems with the NF4V. Just curious why a second access point might be an issue. I'm thinking that if we get them to turn off the WIFI on the router and just use the access point (WIFI is more central and reaches the whole house) that might work?

Another issue that might be at work I'd totally forgotten until investigating this issue. We used to use a standard TCPIP port - but Windows 10 replaced that with a WSD port. We had issues with that - presumably because our printer is a bit older - so we've taken it back to TCPIP. Until now we had no issues. Maybe it really is time to think about a new printer - although given the paperless office has greatly reduced the quantity of printing maybe we'll just persevere.

As for sticking another router behind it, and living with double nat etc - I don't even know what double NAT would mean - but assume the "old" Belkin router (bought in Jan 16 and slightly higher spec than the NF4V) plugs into the new one, which has nothing else (including WIFI) and all the connections run from that. Presumably we could run the WIFI from that, giving us both frequencies out here. If so it's not too much of an issue - but seems a lot of work for little benefit. I have only used the router settings when I needed to play with them because of problems - don't know enough to tinker for the sake of it.

Thanks for all the ideas - so much to learn.

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  #1735372 12-Mar-2017 18:13
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I would go with turning off the wifi on the router as you seem to work fine with the AP, as long as you have coverage :)

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  #1735386 12-Mar-2017 19:28

PhilANZ:
Interesting (in a sad way) to hear of similar problems with the NF4V. Just curious why a second access point might be an issue. I'm thinking that if we get them to turn off the WIFI on the router and just use the access point (WIFI is more central and reaches the whole house) that might work?

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Reason a second Wifi access point causes issues: When a Wifi device connects to your second access point, the NF4V sees that device as connected to one of it's ethernet ports. Due to the cable that connects the access point to the NF4V. If that Wifi device then connects to the inbuilt Wifi, The Nf4V doesn't handle (from it's point of view) ethernet connected devices suddenly turning into Wifi devices and Vise versa.

 

Virtually any other router doesn't have this problem. But it only happens with the Nf4V when you use both it's inbuilt Wifi and an external access point at the same time.






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  #1735388 12-Mar-2017 19:36
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Aredwood:

 

Reason a second Wifi access point causes issues: When a Wifi device connects to your second access point, the NF4V sees that device as connected to one of it's ethernet ports. Due to the cable that connects the access point to the NF4V. If that Wifi device then connects to the inbuilt Wifi, The Nf4V doesn't handle (from it's point of view) ethernet connected devices suddenly turning into Wifi devices and Vise versa.

 

Virtually any other router doesn't have this problem. But it only happens with the Nf4V when you use both it's inbuilt Wifi and an external access point at the same time.

 

 

Also seem to be issues between ports on the switch on the netcomm, in addition to its wifi to ethernet bridge being flakey. I gave up and put a cheap 8 port tplink switch in and turned off the wifi on the netcomms and most problems went away.

 

Still seems to be issues with the brother printer software even with only dumb unmanaged switches between the printer and the computer. I had initially thought it was the "smart" switches doing something with the broadcast stuff so swapped things around to only have dumb ones between the printer and the desktop PCs and same problems with the brother software port stopping working.

 

Could be 2 issues messing up the OP's printing.





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