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  Reply # 1954637 10-Feb-2018 08:18
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I am using a Dreytek Vigor130 and when I use the STD firmware I get much better upload speeds, they jumped from about 2000 to the current at about 5000 after a week or so on the STD over the modem4 firmware, I see now they are enabling vectoring on a lot of exchanges so I'd benefit from modem4 firmware but I'm scared to flash back to modem4 incase it slows my upload right back down.

 

Is there a way to find out if my exchange supports vectoring yet, I'm in Lumsden, Rural southland.

 

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  Reply # 1954754 10-Feb-2018 12:47
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Your cabinet is not enabled for Vectoring.

 

 

 

Currently Chorus are only running Vectoring in 2 exchange areas.

 

They also are only running vectoring (gains atleast) on Downstream.





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  Reply # 1954800 10-Feb-2018 13:46
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So is it best I just stay on standard firmware and not the vectoring firmware, as I do get better speeds on upload with the std, only problem is if they enable vectoring on my cabinet and i don't know it I may be missing out on any performance increase 

 

 




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  Reply # 1954802 10-Feb-2018 13:48
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phrunt:

 

So is it best I just stay on standard firmware and not the vectoring firmware, as I do get better speeds on upload with the std, only problem is if they enable vectoring on my cabinet and i don't know it I may be missing out on any performance increase 

 

 

You may find the speed bump was coincidental.

 

 

 

Different modems will sync differently, Particularly with upstream there is typically a more broad range depending on chipset vs dslam

 

Different software implementations can adjust this slightly.

 

 

 

IMO, your speed boost, I'd leave it be for now.

 

When i see more dslams go live (with the actual enabling not just the upgraded card) i'll be sure to let you all know.





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  Reply # 1954837 10-Feb-2018 15:34
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Thanks I appreciate that.

 

 




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  Reply # 1954839 10-Feb-2018 15:36
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i still need to get around to running some stats that i was going to post awhile back to vectoring.

 

 

 

Didn't feel it was fair to comment on lines when ddDLM was settling with the changes of Vectoring though.





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  Reply # 1955057 11-Feb-2018 07:54
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I fiddled the other day flashing on the gvector firmware to my vigor130 to see if it would make a difference to my line speed, i rebooted the modem a couple of times in the process and then left it 2 days, the speed wasn't better so i flashed back the std firmware, now overnight last night DLM has decided to slow me right down after being at my other speed for a couple of years, is it likely to go back to normal or do i need to contact my isp and get them to do a port reset or anything? 

 

I'm a bit annoyed as I never really had fast speed so now i'm even slower! 


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  Reply # 1955081 11-Feb-2018 08:03
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@phrunt Stop turning modem off and on and DLM takes up to 10 days and no don't do a port reset via ISP

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  Reply # 1995041 12-Apr-2018 19:40
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Any news on where vectoring is enabled?  I'm in the Parnell area and my cabinet is just at the end of my street so I've been getting 70/30 up/down speeds for years.  I tried putting the 3.8.2 modem8 firmware on my Vigor 130 and I can see I have an attainable rate listed at 110848, but I'm only getting 70000.

 

Would that attainable rate suggest I'm on a cabinet that is capable of vectoring?

 

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ES 1 s 154794 s
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UAS 35 s 29 s
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  Reply # 1995047 12-Apr-2018 19:55
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you will be getting UFB so you are NOT getting vectroing

 

attainable rate means nothing, chorus has a limit of 70/30 on ikanos line cards cant change that.

 

Vectoring information is here: https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=223915




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  Reply # 1995199 13-Apr-2018 09:29
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If your still getting 70/30 then your nor even on the linecards.

 

 

 

You wont be getting vectoring though. due to being a chorus UFB area.





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  Reply # 1995213 13-Apr-2018 09:34
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Does this speed seem right to you? my uplink seems slow and my downlink is slower than it used to be, I think there has been a change of card which caused my speed changes? 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1995223 13-Apr-2018 09:46
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spacedog:

 

Any news on where vectoring is enabled?  I'm in the Parnell area and my cabinet is just at the end of my street so I've been getting 70/30 up/down speeds for years.  I tried putting the 3.8.2 modem8 firmware on my Vigor 130 and I can see I have an attainable rate listed at 110848, but I'm only getting 70000.

 

Would that attainable rate suggest I'm on a cabinet that is capable of vectoring?

 

 

Use Modem 4 Firmware to me more stable and meant for NZ
Should hopefully lower your upstream error rate


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  Reply # 1995227 13-Apr-2018 09:51
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Dreytek now say modem 8 firmware is for NZ.

 

 


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  Reply # 1995228 13-Apr-2018 09:52
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phrunt:

 

Does this speed seem right to you? my uplink seems slow and my downlink is slower than it used to be, I think there has been a change of card which caused my speed changes? 

 

Looks about right when I had similar Downstream rate.

 

Leave for a few days as you're on 8b profile, ddDLM should bring this to 17b is all is well with your line.
You running STD Firmware version ? as quite a few stats are missing if yes update to Modem 4, then that page should fill
Modem 4 is also Vectoring capable and STD is not.


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