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  # 1774505 2-May-2017 19:02
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Sure thing. Would be great if you could look into it. What do you need? I am on BigPipe living in an apartment block on grafton road near the bridge.

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  # 1774562 2-May-2017 20:12
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How do I find out if this is relevant to me? I'm in stratford :L


 
 
 
 


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  # 1774571 2-May-2017 20:25
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nzkc:

 

My connection also changed last night.  Unfortunately I seem to have gone from 43/9 to 35/10. Losing 20% download is a disappointment.  Although my biggest disappointment is I'm still over 2yrs away from getting fibre!

 

 

And it changed again this morning. Back on 8b and now at 40/8.


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  # 1774591 2-May-2017 20:47
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Hmmm, I got changed over yesterday, got higher Download and upload connection speeds
But in reality downloads are slower and more erratic, uploads have sped up by 1Mbps

 

Being on 17a was very short lived as power company replacing power poles for last few weeks and power going off/on twice a day
So I was on 17a for an hour, before power cut and then straight back to 8b again
But no difference in connection speeds as per attached.
I do now how ever have large Interleave depth, pretty sure this was zero before switch, which I take it is increasing my ping from 27ms to now high 30's

 

Not too worried about download speed drop as its only slight not too sure about the speed wobbles as before it would be rock steady, upload speed boost is welcome

 

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  # 1774663 2-May-2017 21:51
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Realistically both those lines are ones i would personally kept to 8b.

 

 

 

To me, DLM seems to be doing as it intends, trialing 17a because it feels it may be beneficial, realizing NOPE and dropping back. 

 

Epicwhale:

 

How do I find out if this is relevant to me? I'm in stratford :L

 

 

ddDLM will be relevant to everyone eventually.

 

 

 

It is however a question of, Does it honestly matter to you? for 99% of people it won't mean a thing!





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  # 1774664 2-May-2017 21:56
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Okay so given the questions about ddDLM and now that things are alot more clear, i may be looking to do a proper writeup.

 

 

 

for the time being though, here are some headline figures for maximum line speeds

 

 

 

 

These are as they stand currently, and could change at any point.

 

 

 

As i understand it, the Ikanos lines are limited down slower due to capability.

 

ADSL is ofcourse simply at it's limit of realistic capability.





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  # 1774711 3-May-2017 00:11
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Next step 30a!

 
 
 
 


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  # 1774713 3-May-2017 00:34
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I'd hope the next steps were vectoring and G.INP rather than 30a.


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  # 1774717 3-May-2017 05:07
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Crap, my power went up and down yesterday and now I seem to have dropped back to 8b. Will this correct itself and take me back to 17a if I just leave it alone?


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  # 1774730 3-May-2017 07:53
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Oh man, I keep seeing those posts, and am checking our VDSL connection every day. No change yet.

 

Somewhere in New Zealand, a little geek waits....




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  # 1774752 3-May-2017 09:01
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beaglenz:

Crap, my power went up and down yesterday and now I seem to have dropped back to 8b. Will this correct itself and take me back to 17a if I just leave it alone?



Leave it alone for the next say... 10 days... Concerning considering your line looked valid for 17a.

Maybe it was picking up too many errors.




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  # 1775798 4-May-2017 18:10
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After getting changed over and 1 hour on 17a till power cut, then onto 8b
After 2 days on 8b another power cut and now I'm back to 17a again (phew)
But just my rotten luck that Power company replacing power poles and I'm stuck with power cuts during the DLM

 

17a and 8b not really any difference for me, 800m from cabinet (400m along driveway) might be the limiting factor


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  # 1775799 4-May-2017 18:15
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hio77:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm on VDSL2, however my maximum speeds are about 30% below the maximum for ADSL2. Someone told me I may end up with better speeds switching back to ADSL2?


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  # 1775813 4-May-2017 18:48
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freakngeek:

 

After getting changed over and 1 hour on 17a till power cut, then onto 8b
After 2 days on 8b another power cut and now I'm back to 17a again (phew)
But just my rotten luck that Power company replacing power poles and I'm stuck with power cuts during the DLM

 

17a and 8b not really any difference for me, 800m from cabinet (400m along driveway) might be the limiting factor

 

 

 

 

Put modem at roadside fed from solar, run ubnt wireless to your house , 

 

I am pumping vdsl 3kms via a repeater on a hill using ubiquiti gear, 

 

getting 5 x what I can get from copper at the destination


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  # 1775816 4-May-2017 18:50
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cddt:

 

hio77:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm on VDSL2, however my maximum speeds are about 30% below the maximum for ADSL2. Someone told me I may end up with better speeds switching back to ADSL2?

 

 

Unlikely - Maximum is usually only attainable within about 100m or so of the termination, and only with really good gear. My TP-Link modem I used for testing as a field tech couldn't hit higher than 27000 odd, terminated directly on the port. You're probably in that new weird zone that came about with the changes to VDSL a while back, where you're over about 700-800m away at least, a little bit slower than a perfect ADSL2 line, but a helluvalot better than what ADSL2 would ACTUALLY give you. But that's just a guess - if you could post your line stats, we can do better than guess.





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