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# 213994 22-Apr-2017 20:26
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I am considering moving from Vodafone cable to [Spark] UFB.  As someone who is heavily invested in Apple's eco-system, including an Airport Extreme router and one Airport Express, I want to make sure that any transition is as seamless as possible. However I recall reading on Geekzone somewhere that there were limitations/issues in such configurations. My search-fu has let me down and I can't find any such a reference.  Can someone point me to discussions on  issues moving to UFB with an Apple router and Airport express.





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  # 1769035 22-Apr-2017 20:29
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Spark requires VLAN tagging, which is not available on the AirPort. You'll need to use Spark's router (or another third-party one) and disable the AirPort's routing functions.


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  # 1769036 22-Apr-2017 20:33
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As Apple don't support VLAN tagging and won't ever since they've dumped routers you either need to move to a provider that doesn't require VLAN tagging or buy hardware such a Mikrotik or managed switch to do that tagging for you. Spark require VLAN tagging.

If you require a landline you'll have to find a provider that delivers voice via the ONT.

If you don't want to do either you could use your Apple hardware solely as an AP with DHCP disabled.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1769037 22-Apr-2017 20:35
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Behodar:

 

Spark requires VLAN tagging, which is not available on the AirPort. You'll need to use Spark's router (or another third-party one) and disable the AirPort's routing functions.

 

 

 

 

Ah yes, that rings a bell. Bit of a deal breaker for me to be honest.  Is it any different with other UFB providers?





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  # 1769039 22-Apr-2017 20:36
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I'll just plug my own thread. You can see there which ISPs require VLAN tagging. 




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  # 1769040 22-Apr-2017 20:42
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Thanks Behodar and sbiddle. I will look at your suggestions more closely.  The cost of change, eh?





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  # 1769046 22-Apr-2017 20:52
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Tinshed:

 

Behodar:

 

Spark requires VLAN tagging, which is not available on the AirPort. You'll need to use Spark's router (or another third-party one) and disable the AirPort's routing functions.

 

 

Ah yes, that rings a bell. Bit of a deal breaker for me to be honest.  Is it any different with other UFB providers?

 

The Airport Extreme will give you a poor experience on anything over 200Mbit UFB - it won't work for Gigabit and I've seen it struggle even on 200Mbit with multiple connections. I strongly recommend just using Sparks provided router and putting your Airport into AP only mode (as in - turn off DHCP and any routing and use it only as an AP).





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