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  # 1841348 8-Aug-2017 18:39
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The Fibre Termination Point doesn't have to penetrate through the cladding, other than mounting hardware (which shouldn't go all the way through). No reason why the underground fibre can't come up a conduit to the FTP, then back down and up through the slab.




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  # 1841856 9-Aug-2017 14:08
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I read in one of the  documents that you can have an ITP, which is an internal termination point. According to the document, this is "If the Service lead-in has been laid directly into the premise without an ETP then the pre-wire shall run from the Service lead-in entry point to the Home Media Panel or Communications Panel'. So I am wondering if that s possible.

 

THe other thing I was wondering is the 150mm minimum radius for any fibre conduit.In this document on page 6 https://www.enable.net.nz/assets/Preparing-your-home/Installation-Standard-Precabling-for-Fibre-Broadband.pdf ,  it shows a sweeping bend, which would be 150mm radius. However most walls in houses are only 90mm thick. So I was wondering how that radius can occur between ETP and wher it goes up the wall? Or doesthe conduit have to be twisted in the wall. I am guessing that that image is the normal install in most new dwelling.

 

Having it all on the outside isn't great for security, as any thief can just cut the main fibre line to cut the phone and any cameras going to offsite security etc.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1841920 9-Aug-2017 15:50
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mattwnz:

 

I read in one of the  documents that you can have an ITP, which is an internal termination point. According to the document, this is "If the Service lead-in has been laid directly into the premise without an ETP then the pre-wire shall run from the Service lead-in entry point to the Home Media Panel or Communications Panel'. So I am wondering if that s possible.

 

THe other thing I was wondering is the 150mm minimum radius for any fibre conduit.In this document on page 6 https://www.enable.net.nz/assets/Preparing-your-home/Installation-Standard-Precabling-for-Fibre-Broadband.pdf ,  it shows a sweeping bend, which would be 150mm radius. However most walls in houses are only 90mm thick. So I was wondering how that radius can occur between ETP and wher it goes up the wall? Or doesthe conduit have to be twisted in the wall. I am guessing that that image is the normal install in most new dwelling.

 

Having it all on the outside isn't great for security, as any thief can just cut the main fibre line to cut the phone and any cameras going to offsite security etc.

 

 

 

 

They can also switch off your main power from the meter box which essentially does the same thing (unless you have decent power backup and 3G backup for security system monitoring which has the ability to report mains power failure). But in saying this plenty of thiefs simply smash their way in and grab what they can whilst alarms still ring and cameras still record their covered faces..... Just depends how much damage you want them to do before getting in the house to grab that ipad or whatever it is they can easily and quickly grab, run away with and sell even quicker. 

 

I see you can get lockable ETPs these days. 

 

If me personally, Id get the ETP and have the conduit ready so cladding can be installed to the spec and be under warranty. (no different to cladding having to go around odd shaped windows and features really). 

 

 


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  # 1841937 9-Aug-2017 16:11
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My ETP is internal.
The house was not a new build so the fibre is replacing existing copper.

 

The fibre install goes from the street to under the house via an existing duct.
The was no point running the fibre back outside so we put the ETP on the side of a wooden pile under the house and ran the internal wiring from there.

 

The moral of this story is despite what the guidelines say, if the installer on the day is sensible anything is possible.


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  # 1841939 9-Aug-2017 16:13
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mattwnz:

 

I read in one of the  documents that you can have an ITP, which is an internal termination point. According to the document, this is "If the Service lead-in has been laid directly into the premise without an ETP then the pre-wire shall run from the Service lead-in entry point to the Home Media Panel or Communications Panel'. So I am wondering if that s possible.

 

THe other thing I was wondering is the 150mm minimum radius for any fibre conduit.In this document on page 6 https://www.enable.net.nz/assets/Preparing-your-home/Installation-Standard-Precabling-for-Fibre-Broadband.pdf ,  it shows a sweeping bend, which would be 150mm radius. However most walls in houses are only 90mm thick. So I was wondering how that radius can occur between ETP and wher it goes up the wall? Or doesthe conduit have to be twisted in the wall. I am guessing that that image is the normal install in most new dwelling.

 

Having it all on the outside isn't great for security, as any thief can just cut the main fibre line to cut the phone and any cameras going to offsite security etc.

 

 

There is nothing on the outside of my house, built recently in a new subdivision. When they came to install, one guy was in the garage waiting for fibre to be blown, another guy disappeared down the road somewhere. I was aware the conduit was in place, as far as I know it is direct to the ONT. This is in the external wall, run through the ground into the comms panel in the wall.


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  # 1841941 9-Aug-2017 16:16
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are you in an enable area? or chrous?

 

 


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Jase2985:

 

are you in an enable area? or chrous?

 

 

Mine was a Chorus install


 
 
 
 




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  # 1843034 9-Aug-2017 20:32
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are you in an enable area? or chrous?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think it is chorus as I recall their branding. Is a new subdivision, and the subdivision it is the only part of the entire town that has fibre. I believe the fibre in the street was actually installed at the developers cost, as they were living in the subdivision too, and they wanted fibre rather than wait until 2020.


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