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# 222827 30-Aug-2017 12:16
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Just announced this morning more towns being added to UFB2 (they are calling it UFB2+)

 

looks like it includes funding for mobile coverage in highway black spots

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96308273/pm-bill-english-announces-270m-investment-to-get-rural-nz-on-ultrafast-broadband

 

https://www.crownfibre.govt.nz/ufb-initiative/ultra-fast-broadband-extension/

 

https://www.crownfibre.govt.nz/ufb-initiative/rbi2-mobile-black-spot-fund/

 

 


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  # 1855234 30-Aug-2017 12:39
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As long as the political will exists to do so, there can potentially be more and more smaller towns inline for UFB. Some of those towns indicated have very small populations.


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  # 1855235 30-Aug-2017 12:42
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Wow - this dramatically increases options for cheap housing with UFB for remote workers


 
 
 
 


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  # 1855239 30-Aug-2017 12:49
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great move 





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The smallest town (i.e. not an extension to a previous UFB area) that I can find is Whataroa at 65 houses.

 

With towns so small being covered how much rural is still missing out?


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  # 1855251 30-Aug-2017 13:14
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wired:

 

With towns so small being covered how much rural is still missing out?

 

 

Coverage after UFB2+ is 87%, which means 13% still missing out.


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  # 1855254 30-Aug-2017 13:19
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DarkShadow:

 

wired:

 

With towns so small being covered how much rural is still missing out?

 

 

Coverage after UFB2+ is 87%, which means 13% still missing out.

 

 

This Herald article says that Chorus will cover 87%. Could be Herald lazy and bad journalism (forgetting the other companies like Enable and UFF).

 

Does that 87% also take into account RBI - which will cover a significant percentage as well?


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  # 1855255 30-Aug-2017 13:19
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Unofficial numbers I've seen push UFB to around 87% of population coverage. The cut off for this additional UFB build is around settlements of 100 people (hence the 65 houses mentioned above). 

 

Wireless and satellite start coming heavily into play as NZ geography and rural density does not bode well for anywhere near 100% coverage. For example the couple that live somewhere on the West Coast between Haast and Milford Sound and don't even have anything like a road to their property would be a mission and a half to fibre them up. The original NBN in Australia aimed for 93% FTTP coverage and then the other 7% by satellite and fixed wireless, which I believe is a good indicator of limits to (relatively economic) FTTP roll out.  


 
 
 
 


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  # 1855260 30-Aug-2017 13:24
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It's awesome for those small towns, but meanwhile in Mt Roskill, 2020 till I can have it!


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  # 1855261 30-Aug-2017 13:25
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trig42:

 

This Herald article says that Chorus will cover 87%. Could be Herald lazy and bad journalism (forgetting the other companies like Enable and UFF).

 

Does that 87% also take into account RBI - which will cover a significant percentage as well?

 

 

CFH announcement linked above says "By the end of 2022, 87 per cent of New Zealanders will have access to fibre-to-the-premises." 

 

 


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  # 1855262 30-Aug-2017 13:26
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trig42:

 

DarkShadow:

 

wired:

 

With towns so small being covered how much rural is still missing out?

 

 

Coverage after UFB2+ is 87%, which means 13% still missing out.

 

 

This Herald article says that Chorus will cover 87%. Could be Herald lazy and bad journalism (forgetting the other companies like Enable and UFF).

 

Does that 87% also take into account RBI - which will cover a significant percentage as well?

 

 

They got it wrong. It's 87% fibre and 99% "high speed internet", which presumably will be RBI


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  # 1855263 30-Aug-2017 13:28
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Only if he wins the election right? 


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Coil:

 

Only if he wins the election right? 

 

 

I think this is a government policy instead of an election promise. Would be cool to hear what Labour thinks though.


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  # 1855269 30-Aug-2017 13:39
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DarkShadow:

 

Coil:

 

Only if he wins the election right? 

 

 

I think this is a government policy instead of an election promise. Would be cool to hear what Labour thinks though.

 

 

They will announce a similar policy but those in non rural areas will be taxed to pay for it. LOL 


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  # 1855270 30-Aug-2017 13:39
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Interesting having a quick skim through the Stuff comments - you can find money for this but you can't find it for my knee replacement / ligament repair...





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wired:

 

The smallest town (i.e. not an extension to a previous UFB area) that I can find is Whataroa at 65 houses.

 

With towns so small being covered how much rural is still missing out?

 

 

In my neck of the woods, Norsewood is still missing out, even with UFB2+. They have a population of about 330 according to Wikipedia. Seems strange to me.


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