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  # 1916019 10-Dec-2017 14:37
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^^^ How ironic that Dunedin ended up as NZ's first giga town. laughing

 

I bet that Curran's got UFB at home and her electorate office.


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  # 1916701 11-Dec-2017 13:24
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What a short sighted person. That is really amusing reading now. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1919362 14-Dec-2017 07:16
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I don't know how viable this technology would be over long distances, but could this be useful for the 13% of who won't get fibre anytime soon?

 

https://www.androidauthority.com/att-internet-delivery-power-lines-822918/

 

 


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  # 1919443 14-Dec-2017 10:19
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UFB has, in my book, several major wins:

 

  • THEY SPLIT UP TELECOM!!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Relatively low crown funding.
  • 100% full speed/quality coverage of areas as opposed to "better copper."

It has some missed opportunities

 

  • Chorus won too many areas.  See how UltraFastFibre's rollout has been like compared to Choruses.  They've returned all their government funding already.
  • Related: crappy Chorus fibre installs are commonplace.
  • Too many interconnection points, therefore achieving nationwide coverage is too expensive for smaller players.  Signing contracts with each LFC also appears to be a barrier, although less of one as time goes on.
  • Wholesale prices are high enough that fibre connections will not be part of any "digital divide" solution.
  • Resource consent issues place fibre out of reach for some, including many renters.  Related: crappy Chorus installs make people on shared driveways more likely to decline consent.

Some of these are being addressed.  Some are not.


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  # 1919455 14-Dec-2017 10:41
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deadlyllama:

 

It has some missed opportunities

 

  • Chorus won too many areas.  See how UltraFastFibre's rollout has been like compared to Choruses.  They've returned all their government funding already.
  • Related: crappy Chorus fibre installs are commonplace.
  • Too many interconnection points, therefore achieving nationwide coverage is too expensive for smaller players.  Signing contracts with each LFC also appears to be a barrier, although less of one as time goes on.
  • Wholesale prices are high enough that fibre connections will not be part of any "digital divide" solution.
  • Resource consent issues place fibre out of reach for some, including many renters.  Related: crappy Chorus installs make people on shared driveways more likely to decline consent.

Some of these are being addressed.  Some are not.

 

 

The funding models for Chorus and the LFC's were totally different. You can't compare the two models as a result.

 

As for "crappy" installs I think it's safe to say these exist in all areas but more noticeable from Chorus because they're the biggest player. It's also worth noting that the vast majority of the Chorus UFB network is underground vs the vast majority being overhead in UFF and North Power regions.

 

Interconnect points are a complex issue. There is a POI's in each of the 33 UFB candidate area made perfect sense. Neither Chorus or the LFC's were allowed to provide retail services so couldn't legally provide retail tails to aggregate traffic. This issue was solved by the industry with a number of players offering tail services, and ultimately by Chorus offering their own UFB tail service last year.

 

 


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  # 1919542 14-Dec-2017 13:10
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Theclaytons:

 

I don't know how viable this technology would be over long distances, but could this be useful for the 13% of who won't get fibre anytime soon?

 

https://www.androidauthority.com/att-internet-delivery-power-lines-822918/

 

 

 

 

I watched an episode of Big Life Fix where a bunch of people brought internet and phone to a small village in England (one of many so called "not spots").

 

They used a device called a Mesh Potato. Well they used heaps of them, one in every house, and then linked one MP to a pole which had cell signal.

 

Via this method they were able to "connect" the whole village to the internet.

 

It looked pretty cool. 





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kiwifidget:

 

I watched an episode of Big Life Fix where a bunch of people brought internet and phone to a small village in England (one of many so called "not spots").

 

They used a device called a Mesh Potato. Well they used heaps of them, one in every house, and then linked one MP to a pole which had cell signal.

 

Via this method they were able to "connect" the whole village to the internet.

 

It looked pretty cool. 

 

 

There is a good description of what they did in Staylittle here

 

http://www.rossatkin.com/wp/?portfolio=staylittle-telecom


 
 
 
 


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  # 1919627 14-Dec-2017 15:28
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@wellygary 

 

Thanks for that link, it goes into much more detail than they did on the TV.

 

Anyways, I only mention it as it could be a solution for some of the 13%.





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  # 1919633 14-Dec-2017 15:38
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Have been informed today by Chorus (in an email to all Councils) that new rollout schedules for UFB2 and 2+ are not ready as had been expected and they will have them completed ‘early in the New Year’.

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  # 1919758 14-Dec-2017 18:02
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Thanks Chris.


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  # 1963181 23-Feb-2018 20:01
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2.5 months on anyone in the know?


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I asked my contact three weeks ago and they said fingers crossed it would be the following week. Two weeks on and still nothing. I'll give him another call next week.


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I asked my Chorus Account Mgr 2 weeks ago, he said depending on sign off for the the Minister of Communications it should be later that week.

 

Then last week he sent me the one on the CHF (now CPI) website, which pretty much just says by end of 2022 for most of it.

 

I went back and said that is useless and does not help with forecasting and pointed out Chorus have already started the build in many UFB 2 and UFB 2+ areas and we can order services at some addresses.


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atomeara:

 

I asked my Chorus Account Mgr 2 weeks ago, he said depending on sign off for the the Minister of Communications it should be later that week.

 

Then last week he sent me the one on the CHF (now CPI) website, which pretty much just says by end of 2022 for most of it.

 

I went back and said that is useless and does not help with forecasting and pointed out Chorus have already started the build in many UFB 2 and UFB 2+ areas and we can order services at some addresses.

 

 

#classicchorus is my only response....





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  # 1963821 25-Feb-2018 12:27
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To be fair to Chorus. They have to get this right first time. They are better off delaying for 3 months to get the logistics right and then communicate. There are no prizes for promising dates only to have go back and say, sorry we were wrong. 


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