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  # 1867187 16-Sep-2017 08:59
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Yep, fibre is coming, I was hoping vectoring would be enabled in Kirwee before the up to 5 year wait for fibre to be installed




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  # 1867202 16-Sep-2017 09:33
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@bmarquis thanks for taking the time to answer all those questions, really appreciate it. cool


 
 
 
 


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  # 1867203 16-Sep-2017 09:34
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So if I get this correct Chrous is upgrading some cabinets with the latest Nokia equipment with VDSL2 vectoring. If they are replacing hardware what about adding the G.fast standard as well?

 

 

 

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  # 1867204 16-Sep-2017 09:35
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BMarquis:

 

 

 

Zero-Touch is a Nokia solution, they dont want it copied.
The ISAM knows which CPE are not Vectoring friendly or capable, then the ISAM can cancel a non-vectoring modem's downstream signal on the affected vectored lines - as the crosstalk can still be calculated.
From what I've seen it works really well, and the main limitation is no upstream vectoring.  The new line card which supports vectoring is, anecdotally, performing better upstream anyway.

 

 

Considering AL already have an equal same named feature, I'd say copied is a little far gone. Reading between the lines, think i have the answer i was looking for anyway :)

 

 

 

Glad to hear the new linecards are better on upstream although hearing zero touch can't do anything for that channel is a shame! Can't always wave a magic wand though...





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  # 1867219 16-Sep-2017 10:23
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Any long reach xDSL technology coming? Would be nice to see something 3-5km it that could hit 10/5 Mbps




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  # 1867221 16-Sep-2017 10:30
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coffeebaron: Any long reach xDSL technology coming? Would be nice to see something 3-5km it that could hit 10/5 Mbps

 

 

 

Would be interesting to see a LR profile/product come in. certainly as an alternative to WBB.





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  # 1867249 16-Sep-2017 12:10
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hio77:

BMarquis:


 


Zero-Touch is a Nokia solution, they dont want it copied.
The ISAM knows which CPE are not Vectoring friendly or capable, then the ISAM can cancel a non-vectoring modem's downstream signal on the affected vectored lines - as the crosstalk can still be calculated.
From what I've seen it works really well, and the main limitation is no upstream vectoring.  The new line card which supports vectoring is, anecdotally, performing better upstream anyway.



Considering AL already have an equal same named feature, I'd say copied is a little far gone. Reading between the lines, think i have the answer i was looking for anyway :)


 


Glad to hear the new linecards are better on upstream although hearing zero touch can't do anything for that channel is a shame! Can't always wave a magic wand though...



Nokia bought Alcatel-Lucent :)

Having all RSPs swap modems was simply not an option, so Zero-Touch is a necessity.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1867250 16-Sep-2017 12:12
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Nokia bought Alcatel-Lucent :)

Having all RSPs swap modems was simply not an option, so Zero-Touch is a necessity.

 

oh. well then, i missed that one!

 

 

 

agreed, replacing all the modems would be pushing it, I'd hope overtime those modems are replaced though ;)





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  # 1867251 16-Sep-2017 12:17
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i wonder how many/which ISP modems are the problem children.


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  # 1867258 16-Sep-2017 12:24
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Jase2985:

 

i wonder how many/which ISP modems are the problem children.

 

 

 

 

Looks like the HG series should be ok, older TG series on sparks side seem to be a little unfriendly...

 

 

 

I was hoping this would be the argument for death of those hg630b's personally, I'm still going to have to keep them out there i suppose!

 

May be slightly firmware dependant, but chipset looks good for it.

 

 

 

There is currently a big scary message left on some dslams about compatibility with vectoring, highly suspect this is actually caused by vectoring not actually being flicked on those lines though.

 

 





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  # 1867417 16-Sep-2017 23:50
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hio77:

 

 

 

Looks like the HG series should be ok, older TG series on sparks side seem to be a little unfriendly...

 

 

There's only one TG on Spark's list.

 

The Spark HG's all have a vectoring compatible chipset (BCM63168), as does their TG (BCM6368) and their Pace (VR9). Some or all might require a firmware update, but Spark should be able to do that remotely, right?


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This sounds interesting. My hometown in New Zealand has VDSL and no likelyhood of UFB. So hopefully we will be inline for this enhancement. Does anyone know about the compatibility status of the Cisco 887VA router?





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  # 1868129 18-Sep-2017 15:49
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This sounds interesting. My hometown in New Zealand has VDSL and no likelyhood of UFB. So hopefully we will be inline for this enhancement. Does anyone know about the compatibility status of the Cisco 887VA router?

 

 

 

 

he A2pv6C038k1, A2pv6C038h, and B2pvC038h firmware supports only G.vector features on VDSL2 and can be used only for G.vector type of deployments.

 

 

 

Looks like it may be good to go.

 

Further changelogs indicate it may be more G.993.2 Annex Y rather than full vectoring.

 

 

 

I'd upgrade the firmware if possible.





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  # 1868133 18-Sep-2017 15:57
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hio77:

 

he A2pv6C038k1, A2pv6C038h, and B2pvC038h firmware supports only G.vector features on VDSL2 and can be used only for G.vector type of deployments.

 

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I'd upgrade the firmware if possible.

 

 

This is what I presently have:

 

Firmware Source File Name (version)
-------- ------ -------------------
VDSL embedded VDSL_LINUX_DEV_01212008 (1)

Modem FW Version: 130205_1433-4.02L.03.A2pv6C035j.d23j
Modem PHY Version: A2pv6C035j.d23j
Vendor Version: Ap6v35j.23j 68

 

So it would appear I am going to have to do something. I purchased this router new in 2011 and am using it's original modem FW.

 

Previously I have used the modem firmware files but in researching this I saw a mention that some IOS may come with modem firmware - is this correct? Or would I download the modem firmware as previously to achieve this upgrade?

 

 





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  # 1868145 18-Sep-2017 16:25
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hio77:

 

Further changelogs indicate it may be more G.993.2 Annex Y rather than full vectoring.

 

 

It supports both full and friendly modes.

 

G.vector and G.vector friendly mode (G.993.2 Annex Y)


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