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  Reply # 1923611 22-Dec-2017 11:09
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BarTender: I heard Chorus were parking G.IMP for a while until the issues with some CPE are sorted. I think there was a small percentage of CPE that didn't come back.

 

 

 

Also heard mention of this, Seems to actually be on a line by line basis though.

 

 

 

Checking a few lines I'm still seeing it, looks like possibly the REIN side of it is turned off.





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  Reply # 1947044 26-Jan-2018 11:04
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Looks like flood of south island DSLAM's getting the vectoring switch...

 

 

 

I'll produce a list once the emails stop coming.....





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  Reply # 1947111 26-Jan-2018 12:14
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Alright, Chorus seem to have finished the flood for awhile - I wrote the previous post as the inital 2 hit, then more started coming so had to hold off.

 

 

 

Looking at the following expected dates!

 

 

 

 

Interesting ones for me, are the Exchange fed DSLAM's. to date i'm yet to see this deployed on any exchange due to unbundling etc...

 

 





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  Reply # 1947131 26-Jan-2018 13:06
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This may be a dumb question, but I read through the thread and don't think I saw anything --- what impact (if any) is this likely to have on ADSL lines (particularly longer ones?). I'm on the end of a long (3km+) line from an exchange. We saw downstream jump from ~4Mbps to ~6Mbps after the DDLM changes, but always keen to get it higher given RBI is not quite there for us yet ;)


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  Reply # 1947132 26-Jan-2018 13:08
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Some / many exchanges are unbundled (UCLL) capable but no ISP has actually unbundled at it.

 

I also noted that when Chorus rolled out BBIP (Baseband IP) to some exchanges on the East Cape they removed the option to order UCLL (they didn't have anyone with UCLL at them at the time).

 

 

 

Interesting in that list some cabinets overlap with existing UFB coverage and at least one is in a UFB 2+ area.


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  Reply # 1947138 26-Jan-2018 13:10
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atomeara:

 

Interesting in that list some cabinets overlap with existing UFB coverage and at least one is in a UFB 2+ area.

 

 

Glad about that, one cabinet around here in that situation so that is very hopeful.

 

backfiah:

 

This may be a dumb question, but I read through the thread and don't think I saw anything --- what impact (if any) is this likely to have on ADSL lines (particularly longer ones?). I'm on the end of a long (3km+) line from an exchange. We saw downstream jump from ~4Mbps to ~6Mbps after the DDLM changes, but always keen to get it higher given RBI is not quite there for us yet ;)

 

 

Likely to make no, or extremely minor improvements from my understanding. 




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  Reply # 1947158 26-Jan-2018 13:51
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backfiah:

 

This may be a dumb question, but I read through the thread and don't think I saw anything --- what impact (if any) is this likely to have on ADSL lines (particularly longer ones?). I'm on the end of a long (3km+) line from an exchange. We saw downstream jump from ~4Mbps to ~6Mbps after the DDLM changes, but always keen to get it higher given RBI is not quite there for us yet ;)

 

 

This was the snr dropping part of ddDLM. Vectoring won't really help ADSL - it may potentially limit the affect of crosstalk but that's all.

 

 

 

atomeara:

 

Some / many exchanges are unbundled (UCLL) capable but no ISP has actually unbundled at it.

 

I also noted that when Chorus rolled out BBIP (Baseband IP) to some exchanges on the East Cape they removed the option to order UCLL (they didn't have anyone with UCLL at them at the time).

 

 

 

Interesting in that list some cabinets overlap with existing UFB coverage and at least one is in a UFB 2+ area.

 

 

Fair point, I didn't realize chorus were dropping UCLL products where they have rolled BBIP.

 

Honestly UCLL is kinda an ugly beast anyway....





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  Reply # 1947171 26-Jan-2018 14:05
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I am pretty sure we will see UCLL go between 2020 and 2025.

 

Just like large parts of the copper network at some stage in the 2020's




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  Reply # 1947179 26-Jan-2018 14:15
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atomeara:

 

I am pretty sure we will see UCLL go between 2020 and 2025.

 

Just like large parts of the copper network at some stage in the 2020's

 

 

 

 

Yep, at the time for consumers it was a great thing, but now that chorus's stepped up their offering It's mainly a bonus for the owners of the gear ;)





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  Reply # 1954489 9-Feb-2018 18:35
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Do Chorus have a schedule on their website anywhere? i can't seem to find it, I'd love to know when my area is getting the upgrade.

 

I'm in a rural town (Lumsden) with vdsl2 but not getting fibre so I should be on their to-do list.




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  Reply # 1954494 9-Feb-2018 18:38
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phrunt:

 

Do Chorus have a schedule on their website anywhere? i can't seem to find it, I'd love to know when my area is getting the upgrade.

 

I'm in a rural town (Lumsden) with vdsl2 but not getting fibre so I should be on their to-do list.

 

 

chorus are upgrading most cards currently.

 

 

 

Vectoring to come later....





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  Reply # 1954497 9-Feb-2018 18:49
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But only for exchanges and cabinets not covered by UFB((2)+) right

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  Reply # 1955454 11-Feb-2018 22:27
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Theclaytons: But only for exchanges and cabinets not covered by UFB((2)+) right

 

correct

 

but also for non chorus UFB areas




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  Reply # 1955458 11-Feb-2018 22:31
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Theclaytons: But only for exchanges and cabinets not covered by UFB((2)+) right

 

They appear to be upgrading far more than just the bare minimum.

 

 

 

The vectoring toggle simply won't happen on excluded areas.

 

Atleast in these the 70/30 limit will be no more.





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  Reply # 1956012 12-Feb-2018 20:51
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When does UFB2+ dates get finalised and announced?

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