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  Reply # 1899675 12-Nov-2017 16:45
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What about UFB areas where they can't get fibre (jerk neighbour who won't give consent, for example) so therefore they can't get fibre? Do you think Chorus will just switch off their copper connection, leaving them with nothing?

 

 

 

 

Probably 


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  Reply # 1899681 12-Nov-2017 17:28
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What about UFB areas where they can't get fibre (jerk neighbour who won't give consent, for example) so therefore they can't get fibre? Do you think Chorus will just switch off their copper connection, leaving them with nothing?

 

 

They are still working on a code; part of the code is that before they can remove copper everyone has to have fibre (and at no install cost to them) also the notice period.
The law change that came into effect also means that neighbors can't reject fibre in many cases now. In the case of land lords I expect in a few years most of them will give in due to demands of tenants, I am hearing of tenants refusing to take places because they won't allow UFB, the landlords tend to change there tune pretty quickly.

 

Also the pricing will become unregulated in UFB areas which means they can push the price up on copper. UFB will be regulated on a couple of products (a voice only plan and a 100/20 plan)

 

As it stands today they can't remove any copper but there is a law chance in the words. In non UFB areas it is status quo, they can not remove it and the pricing is regulated.

 

 


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  Reply # 1899687 12-Nov-2017 18:01
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What about UFB areas where they can't get fibre (jerk neighbour who won't give consent, for example) so therefore they can't get fibre? Do you think Chorus will just switch off their copper connection, leaving them with nothing?

 

 

Yes, or put the price up to the point where noone bothers with it.





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  Reply # 1899688 12-Nov-2017 18:03
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In the case of land lords I expect in a few years most of them will give in due to demands of tenants, I am hearing of tenants refusing to take places because they won't allow UFB, the landlords tend to change there tune pretty quickly.

 

 

It people can sleep in it, then it will get rented. The idea of someone worrying about a few people refusing a place because of fiber is a bit crazy. Huge shortage of places, people will take anything they can afford. Perhaps some higher end places may get affected by that, but for the average family there are many more pressing things when choosing a house.





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  Reply # 1899771 12-Nov-2017 21:03
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atomeara:

 

 

 

In the case of land lords I expect in a few years most of them will give in due to demands of tenants, I am hearing of tenants refusing to take places because they won't allow UFB, the landlords tend to change there tune pretty quickly.

 

 

It people can sleep in it, then it will get rented. The idea of someone worrying about a few people refusing a place because of fiber is a bit crazy. Huge shortage of places, people will take anything they can afford. Perhaps some higher end places may get affected by that, but for the average family there are many more pressing things when choosing a house.

 

 

One of my co-workers wanted fibre into his place he rented but the landlord said no. When the landlord rented the place next door and the people said they would not move if if there wasn't fibre, the landlord changed his mind and approved it.

 

I would not move into a place without fibre as I would struggle to do my job.


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  Reply # 1899773 12-Nov-2017 21:14
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I haven't heard of anyone turning a place down because they can't get fibre. Having broadband availability (and cellphone coverage) is a decision I make when choosing to live, but it doesn't need to be fibre - although it would be nice to have it everywhere.


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  Reply # 1899779 12-Nov-2017 21:31
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I am not saying it is anyone elses requirement but it is mine (and it also was these other people of talked about above), I have lived in enough places with crappy ADSL, trying to have 1 flat mate using facetime back to there family in the UK, another trying to work / do a skype call for work and one watching netflix, it doesn't work.

 

Sure if you are sitting on are close to a cabinet VDSL can be fine.

 

However I also spend my day looking after 100's of customer circuits and ADSL/VDSL is a pain, they fault a lot more than fibre (which generally works or it doesn't and when it doesn't the optic light goes red and Chorus come out and fix it). ADSL or VDSL you have to do a heap of troubleshooting only to have a Chorus tech and say he can't find a fault half the time and you end up with a $200 not fault found fee. We have customers often develop speed issues with ADSL or VDSL as well which is more frustrating. Specially after happening 4 times since April in the case of one site and another site will fault every 6-9 months over the last 5 years. 

 

 


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