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  Reply # 1906967 24-Nov-2017 10:01
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Spark FibreMAX using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+

 


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  Reply # 1907330 24-Nov-2017 20:15
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My bad I was meaning Cat 6. that's what we went with in the end 35 meters of it. 


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  Reply # 1907342 24-Nov-2017 20:29
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So is it all working now?




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  Reply # 1907368 24-Nov-2017 21:28
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Yep it’s all good

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  Reply # 1907398 24-Nov-2017 21:37
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Great. How many runs of cable did you have installed?




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  Reply # 1907462 25-Nov-2017 08:24
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One run of outdoor rated cat 6 from the room downstairs straight up and into the soffit then though the ceiling into a room at the other end of the house he put in a RJ45 socket upstairs and down and then he ran another normal cat 6 cable from the run to upstairs and put a RJ45 socket in the ceiling attached to a length of Ethernet cable so that we could move that socket into another room if we wanted to easily also we wouldn't even have to patch up the hole as we could just put a blank face plate over it.


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  Reply # 1907940 26-Nov-2017 12:05
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@webwat why do you say Cat 6 is overkill?

 

I would think if someone is getting a cable put in they should get the latest available at the time as it will be there for many years.   

 

 

Cat.6 is what I recommended, its suitable for gigabit ethernet, and up to 50m of 10Gig, and its the normal one that gets installed everywhere.

 

Cat.6A is usually overkill unless you are definitely needing 10 Gigabit everywhere, or if you need shielded cable due to EM interference around the building. Most of the Cat6A brands have a shielded option and for some its the only option, but keep in mind that shielding requires earth at one end (eg patch panel) and some care to avoid ground loops if using as a backbone between earthed equipment. Also multi-mode fibre is often preferred for 10 Gigabit speeds so you end up only using 10Gig copper for the latest superfast wifi and not much else.

 

Cat.7 and Cat.7A are essentially the same as Cat.6A but fully shielded only.

 

Cat.8 is currently the fastest but not much point unless you have a need for up to 30m (I think) of 40 Gigabit in your flash expensive data centre. Yes its the latest but not intended for normal use.

 

The future is likely to bring GPON (like the Chorus fibre) prices low enough to eliminate the majority of copper data cable in the average office type network, being replaced by single-mode fibre, potentially being composite cable with fibre and power wires. There are already GPON ONTs available that mount into your average wall fitting and provide powered ethernet outlets that look like normal wall faceplates. They might get to NZ oneday!

 

So don't just get the latest fastest copper data cable, it might not even be relevant to your needs.





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  Reply # 1907999 26-Nov-2017 15:38
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webwat:

 

Starscream122:

 

@webwat why do you say Cat 6 is overkill?

 

I would think if someone is getting a cable put in they should get the latest available at the time as it will be there for many years.   

 

 

Cat.6 is what I recommended, its suitable for gigabit ethernet, and up to 50m of 10Gig, and its the normal one that gets installed everywhere.

 

Cat.6A is usually overkill unless you are definitely needing 10 Gigabit everywhere, or if you need shielded cable due to EM interference around the building. Most of the Cat6A brands have a shielded option and for some its the only option, but keep in mind that shielding requires earth at one end (eg patch panel) and some care to avoid ground loops if using as a backbone between earthed equipment. Also multi-mode fibre is often preferred for 10 Gigabit speeds so you end up only using 10Gig copper for the latest superfast wifi and not much else.

 

Cat.7 and Cat.7A are essentially the same as Cat.6A but fully shielded only.

 

Cat.8 is currently the fastest but not much point unless you have a need for up to 30m (I think) of 40 Gigabit in your flash expensive data centre. Yes its the latest but not intended for normal use.

 

The future is likely to bring GPON (like the Chorus fibre) prices low enough to eliminate the majority of copper data cable in the average office type network, being replaced by single-mode fibre, potentially being composite cable with fibre and power wires. There are already GPON ONTs available that mount into your average wall fitting and provide powered ethernet outlets that look like normal wall faceplates. They might get to NZ oneday!

 

So don't just get the latest fastest copper data cable, it might not even be relevant to your needs.

 

 

 

 

I only got Cat 6 as I thought that;s the best you can actually get at present... And it needed to be Outdoor Rated.


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  Reply # 1908002 26-Nov-2017 15:51
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IMO, the only fool proof way to future proof an installation is to have conduits or ducts installed so whatever whiz bang tech that comes along (such as fibre around the home) can be easily installed to replace the older whiz bang tech.




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  Reply # 1908003 26-Nov-2017 16:03
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Yeah It was either outdoor rated PVC and ordinary ethernet or no PVC but outdoor ethernet cable. I decided on going without the conduit because I don't think we would like the look of it running up the house. 

 

it didn't take too long too install 2 and a half hours maybe.




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  Reply # 1908005 26-Nov-2017 16:06
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I wander how long it will be till our Nics are fibre and our routers....


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  Reply # 1908028 26-Nov-2017 17:40
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i cant see that being the case any time soon, given the fact UTP/STP goes up to 40Gbps.

 

there is next to no residential hardware that supports this, even 2.5 and 5Gbps stuff is barely out there in the residential sector. and with 10Gbps fibre connections right round the corner something better speed things up.

 

 


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