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Topic # 225658 29-Nov-2017 10:10
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SKY TV is demanding New Zealand’s main broadband providers block access to a range of websites – a move that Vocus Group – which runs the Orcon, Slingshot and Flip brands – has labelled gross censorship and a breach of net neutrality.

 

https://www.orcon.net.nz/sky-censorship-response

 

 





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  Reply # 1909381 29-Nov-2017 10:19
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It would be very interesting to see what sites are on the list.





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  Reply # 1909382 29-Nov-2017 10:19
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To the Sky defenders and apologists, I would say this indicates its true nature. It is a greedy, dishonest, rapacious, last-century, backward-looking outfit with a huge sense of entitlement that has long passed its use-by date and outlived its welcome. The sooner it is gone, the better. I hope this monopolist mafia organisation dies and burns in hell. I am so glad we are no longer giving it money. It doesn't deserve to survive.

 

 





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  Reply # 1909384 29-Nov-2017 10:21
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My bets on rugbypass, and those dodgy cricket streaming joints that don't just do cricket.


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  Reply # 1909402 29-Nov-2017 10:32
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This is something I will "march" to stop





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  Reply # 1909411 29-Nov-2017 10:49
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blocking certain resources is not a fix, it's sticky patch that will falloff in a hour.

 

when they block one resource 3 mirrors will be up in running in hours.

 

it's done in Russia, where they block torrent sites (and some online streaming services, media websites, etc) on government level (ISP blocking all access and soon to filter our VPN traffic), and all resources did not loose much of the traffic. So million of dollars wasted. I don't want schools or hospitals missing out on funding just because some private company wants to lobby their interest in NZ.





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  Reply # 1909414 29-Nov-2017 10:54
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Wow! Vocus certainly didn't hold any punches in their press statement. Fantastic to see them not only telling Sky where to go but also calling out their outdated business model. 


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  Reply # 1909415 29-Nov-2017 10:55
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I would also like to know the full list but I also want to know what legal grounds sky think they have demanding this.

 

Someone has to have checked what they where demanding was able to hold up otherwise sky are just deciding that throwing money towards lawyers(and likely including the other sides legal fees) for unwinnable cases. In which case they will just be accelerating their demise.





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  Reply # 1909420 29-Nov-2017 11:00
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Oblivian:

 

My bets on rugbypass, and those dodgy cricket streaming joints that don't just do cricket.

 



Wonder if it also includes sites like Hulu and HBO. Is this an attempt to cut down on piracy, or also to stamp out parallel importing of legitimately paid for video content?

In any case, it's not the way to solve the problem. 


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  Reply # 1909421 29-Nov-2017 11:02
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dclegg:

 

Oblivian:

 

My bets on rugbypass, and those dodgy cricket streaming joints that don't just do cricket.

 



Wonder if it also includes sites like Hulu and HBO. Is this an attempt to cut down on piracy, or also to stamp out parallel importing of legitimately paid for video content?

In any case, it's not the way to solve the problem. 

 

 

yeah, it could be them testing their exclusive contracts in court. The exporters T&Cs for saying its for their country of origin only, and here where it's meant to be exclusive to 1 broadcaster I guess


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  Reply # 1909433 29-Nov-2017 11:05
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And some people thing net neutrality is only an American issue.

 

If NZ was smart, it was ratify net neutrality laws now, and show the world how it should be done. Not that its a big issue for us currently, but this shows it could easily be. Plus its a healthy step for a thriving digital economy going forward.


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  Reply # 1909438 29-Nov-2017 11:16
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must be like what is happening in the UK with soccer (football) atm


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He made the comment in the wake of revealing that Sky had lost nearly 34,000 satellite subscribers in the year to June.

 

"The big problem is the increasing ease by which pirated content is accessible," he said then.

 

"Devices preloaded with piracy software enable users to access pirated content stored on servers overseas, from the comfort of their living room."

 

 

 

Really?
The number of those 'Devices' probably number in the low thousands if that - trivial.

 

Piracy is hardly the issue here, the prices they charge to watch garbage that can be found in the sale bin in the Warehouse is the real piracy.
How do they think they can charge like a wounded bull for their so called Premier movie channel that lists mostly rubbish a 12 year old would find boring?

 

I have been using Netflix since just before they came to NZ and would NEVER consider the offering Sky has to be even close to competitive.
I'm even considering Amazon Prime video as well. Both of those a month costs HALF the cost of a basic Sky subscription and I could watch 24 hours a day for a year on those subscriptions alone and NEVER see an add or the same content twice, can't say that with Sky.

 

I know some people have to use their service to get any content (I was one of them for 8 years) and most of those would probably like to drop them like a hot rock if they could.


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  Reply # 1909440 29-Nov-2017 11:19
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I think they're just following the lead of similar approaches being put in place in Australia and elsewhere.  Very troubling though.  But this isn't a new thing, the Stuff article comparing this to a North Korea move is a bit over the top.  This is not new, it's why net neutrality is under threat from the FCC at the moment.


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NZSpides:

 

Piracy is hardly the issue here, the prices they charge to watch garbage that can be found in the sale bin in the Warehouse is the real piracy.
How do they think they can charge like a wounded bull for their so called Premier movie channel that lists mostly rubbish a 12 year old would find boring?

 

I have been using Netflix since just before they came to NZ and would NEVER consider the offering Sky has to be even close to competitive.
I'm even considering Amazon Prime video as well. Both of those a month costs HALF the cost of a basic Sky subscription and I could watch 24 hours a day for a year on those subscriptions alone and NEVER see an add or the same content twice, can't say that with Sky.

 



 

This.

We currently use a mix of NZ and parallel imported SVOD services to replace Sky (which we canceled over a year ago). Even if they successfully managed to stop access to the imported ones, we're still left with Netflix, Lightbox, and Amazon Prime Video. 

Sure, we'd miss the overseas based ones, but we'd still have more than enough content to stop us having to resubscribe.


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