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  Reply # 1999718 20-Apr-2018 10:51
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I researched gigabit speed reviews of Trust Power before moving to them from Spark and could not find any information online so I moved thinking it will be excellent. I signed up requesting static ip and was signed up with carrier grade nat aka no public ip. Called them and asked to turn this off and they did it and removed my static ip. I called and  they reinstated it, said it could take upto 24 hours which i was ok with. Called again as the speed was sub par for a gigabit connection and did some tests and removed my static ip and have turned back on carrier grade nat. The tech tested the network for about an hour and could not fault my gear and said they have lots of fluctuations in speed on gigabit. I have done speedtests at peak times and non peak times and here's a graph of the speed u can expect from trustpower. Im hoping to hear back from them and will keep this updated if the speed improves. On the graph you can see Spark speed on the left and Trust Power on the right.

 

 

I prefer getting my internet from a telco type company rather than a power company or even a newspaper for that matter.




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  Reply # 1999793 20-Apr-2018 12:56
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@mihilli Yes, has been spoken about on here multiple times. I would not recommend them to anyone.

 

1) Not really "Unlimited" - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=198512
2) Shady business behavior - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=224140&page_no=4#1897211 
3) Another thread - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=205380

 

There is also multiple threads on hd.net both on here and on gpforums. They try and market themselves as the absolute cheapest (when they're not) and also block all criticism by blocking people on their Facebook. Stick with a competent provider as until both hd.net and unlimited internet change this both myself and many others are just going to assume something is seriously wrong with these companies - it is unusual in this day and age.





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  Reply # 2001122 23-Apr-2018 14:30
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Could someone explain the importance of CGNAT? I have a static IP address with Vodafone but am thinking of changing to a different provider. What's the impact of CGNAT? I currently run a bunch of publicly accessible services from my home IP for personal use.

 

I'm also keen to move to an ISP that peers properly - is there a definitive list of those that do?


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  Reply # 2001125 23-Apr-2018 14:36
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Could someone explain the importance of CGNAT? I have a static IP address with Vodafone but am thinking of changing to a different provider. What's the impact of CGNAT? I currently run a bunch of publicly accessible services from my home IP for personal use.

 

 

You definitely won't be able to do this if your ISP has CGNAT. The public IP address you use is shared between many connections. You have a private routed IP address between you and the ISP.

 

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I'm also keen to move to an ISP that peers properly - is there a definitive list of those that do?

 

 

Most peering points list this information on their website. For example for WIX it is at http://wix.nzix.net/wix-peers.html 


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  Reply # 2001128 23-Apr-2018 14:39
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

 

One public facing IP address shared by many customers, means the ISP can get away with buying smaller numbers of IPv4 addresses while still having plenty of customers. we are almost out of IPv4 addresses and the uptake to the new IPv6 addresses is slow.


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  Reply # 2001130 23-Apr-2018 14:41
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You definitely won't be able to do this if your ISP has CGNAT. The public IP address you use is shared between many connections. You have a private routed IP address between you and the ISP.

 

 

Thanks - does that mean if I request a static IP address from an ISP who uses CGNAT, that the IP address will still be shared between multiple customers? What's the point of requesting a static IP address if it's still shared? If that's the case, then I'd definitely need an ISP who could provide me with a dedicated static IP address. Are there any left?


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  Reply # 2001132 23-Apr-2018 14:43
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

 

One public facing IP address shared by many customers, means the ISP can get away with buying smaller numbers of IPv4 addresses while still having plenty of customers. we are almost out of IPv4 addresses and the uptake to the new IPv6 addresses is slow.

 

 

Thanks I had read that but was stuggling to understand the actual customer impact since I would have expected that if an ISP provides me a static IP address, I would be able to do port forwarding from behind that IP address.


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  Reply # 2001134 23-Apr-2018 14:49
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Thanks - does that mean if I request a static IP address from an ISP who uses CGNAT, that the IP address will still be shared between multiple customers? What's the point of requesting a static IP address if it's still shared? If that's the case, then I'd definitely need an ISP who could provide me with a dedicated static IP address. Are there any left?

 

 

I'd double check with the ISP, but my understanding is that if you ask for a static IP from an ISP that does CGNAT, you will get a publicly routable IP address and not be part of the CGNAT.

 

As for ISPs that offer publicly routed IP addresses, the big four do this for their major brands (but usually not for their budget brands, e.g. Skinny use CGNAT). I'm with 2 degrees, and have a static IPv4 and /64 IPv6 with my plan. They also offer ip6.arpa delegation for the IPv6 which no other ISP seemed to offer when I was looking just over a year ago.


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  Reply # 2001143 23-Apr-2018 15:18
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stinger:

 

You definitely won't be able to do this if your ISP has CGNAT. The public IP address you use is shared between many connections. You have a private routed IP address between you and the ISP.

 

 

Thanks - does that mean if I request a static IP address from an ISP who uses CGNAT, that the IP address will still be shared between multiple customers? What's the point of requesting a static IP address if it's still shared? If that's the case, then I'd definitely need an ISP who could provide me with a dedicated static IP address. Are there any left?

 

 

if you get a static IP address its Yours and no-one elses.

 

there are still addresses let so dont worry about that


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  Reply # 2001176 23-Apr-2018 15:31
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if you get a static IP address its Yours and no-one elses.

 

there are still addresses let so dont worry about that

 

 

Generally speaking it is not yours, and still belongs to the ISP. For example in 2 degrees T&C it states "Any static IP addresses provided for your use under this Agreement remain the property of 2degrees." If you want an IP address that is actually owned by you (and therefore portable between providers) you will need to apply for this through APNIC.


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