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Talkiet
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  #2082318 1-Sep-2018 11:51
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Taubin:

Talkiet:


Sorry you've taken it like that. It was offered initially as a reason why the BB team haven't been able to get to the Enable offer. Of course there's no right answer here... If we'd said nothing at all, or just said the team was too busy then we'd have copped it from other people...


Damned if we do... damned if we don't.


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It would be much better to say "Oh, sorry, we aren't able to offer that right now, and I can't give any more information" and leave it at that. instead, we get a bunch of back and forth from people "in the know" talking on a public forum, about this super secret super cool project that will come "eventually". You have to remember your customers (and potential customers) are the ones reading these posts. It's not some internal forum where everyone is going to get your inside jokes, and talk about how amazing the project is.


If you can't talk about it. Don't. It's pretty simple. Doing things how Spark/Bigpipe people have been doing it here, has done nothing but turn customers off of your services. I for one, will never ever use your services, and will tell others not to, simply due to your lack of openness about what's going on with things that directly affect your customers. There's no "damned if you do, damned if you don't" stop playing the victim here. Be honest with your customers, and give them factual, actionable information. Not cryptic crap about super secret things that you can't talk about (yet can't wait to tell everyone you can't talk about them on a public forum). We get it, you're "in the know" and the rest of us aren't. At this point it's certainly not doing you or your company any favors.



Well you can't please all the people all the time. I'm sorry you have taken it like that and have had such an extreme reaction. I'll not bother you again by replying to any more of your comments.

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  #2082320 1-Sep-2018 11:54
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I took your posts somewhat like that but yes not as extreme.
They did come across as douchey, and I laughed at your can't please everyone comment.

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  #2082540 1-Sep-2018 19:20
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Make no difference to me how it was handled, without knowing what it is,  it has no meaning to me. Other ISP's cheaper and offering something Spark isn't - something good coming with no dates or info of what is, is to vague.

 

Need a reason to justify extra cost as not using Light Box much.

 

From memory the $200 credit with 2degrees finished 22nd last month so was on the clock to make a decision. just checked and looks like goes to 27th September at moment.

 

Guessing Enable makes money in changing internet connections over, they'll be doing well at moment.




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  #2084689 6-Sep-2018 08:11
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I'm now up to 186mbps on speedtest.net running in a VM (193mbps according to my router), and 21.9MB/s downloading from a Slingshot FTP server. Close, Orcon, but not quite there. Looks like they've found the rate limit setting but have set it to 200 rather than a little bit more to account for overheads.


  #2084719 6-Sep-2018 09:50
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if you can run it in the windows 10 speedtest app, will reduce browser overheads


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  #2085131 6-Sep-2018 16:35
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Here my test from slingshot. seems to have gotten a bit better

 

150/20 -> now 175/20

 

 

 


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  #2085192 6-Sep-2018 19:30
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Mine is a bit up and down speed wise but generally hitting 160 reliably, did get this on a speed test a minute ago though, still beats the 1Mbps speeds I used to get in Perth not so long back.

 




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  #2087495 11-Sep-2018 13:40
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New prices for Bigpipe and Skinny 200/20 are out.

 

$79 Bigpipe and $78 Skinny


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  #2087563 11-Sep-2018 15:00
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DarkShadow:

 

New prices for Bigpipe and Skinny 200/20 are out.

 

$79 Bigpipe and $78 Skinny

 

Pretty poor when a sub-brand of Spark, running on Sparks network completes something like this before Spark themselves.





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  #2087582 11-Sep-2018 15:13
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I don't think they run on Spark's network. AFAIK Skinny and BP is the same network, but Spark is separate. Good thing too, I used to be on BP fibre when they first came to chch and performance was good, but it slowly got worse and worse and was pretty crap by the time I changed to Orcon 8 months ago.


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  #2087587 11-Sep-2018 15:16
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They do both run on the Spark network now, but there are different provisioning and billing processes. There are also different development priorities for each of the products and different acceptable risk profiles for any changes.

 

Cheers - N

 

 





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  #2087591 11-Sep-2018 15:19
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jb5:

 

I don't think they run on Spark's network. AFAIK Skinny and BP is the same network, but Spark is separate. Good thing too, I used to be on BP fibre when they first came to chch and performance was good, but it slowly got worse and worse and was pretty crap by the time I changed to Orcon 8 months ago.

 

 

Skinny and BP were migrated over to our core awhile back. They still operate separately from spark, Just the same network core.

 

 

 

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Wup, neil bet me to it!





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  #2087595 11-Sep-2018 15:26
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Talkiet:

 

They do both run on the Spark network now, but there are different provisioning and billing processes. There are also different development priorities for each of the products and different acceptable risk profiles for any changes.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

I wonder if they just said "lets not bother with a Policer and give them the 1GB speed plan (or the 200/200 one)" and then push through the provisioning requests.

 

Dang I am glad someone was smart when the stack was built to have a whole lot of different provisioned speeds and flexibility to easily provision those speeds.





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  #2087596 11-Sep-2018 15:26
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hio77:

 

jb5:

 

I don't think they run on Spark's network. AFAIK Skinny and BP is the same network, but Spark is separate. Good thing too, I used to be on BP fibre when they first came to chch and performance was good, but it slowly got worse and worse and was pretty crap by the time I changed to Orcon 8 months ago.

 

 

Skinny and BP were migrated over to our core awhile back. They still operate separately from spark, Just the same network core.

 

 

 

EDIT:

 

Wup, neil bet me to it!

 

 

 

 

Recently as in when? As I mentioned I found performance had really tanked which is why I moved away from BP. Truenet graphs at the time were showing big dives during peak evening periods and unless whatever I was looking at was coming from a CDN is was reaaaallly slow (some YT videos, probably ones not on an NZ CDN, wouldn't even stream). Friends on BP seeing the same thing.

 

Truenet showed Spark performance was still fine during all of this. Would consider going back to BP if performance was better (and in line with what Spark is typically like).


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  #2087627 11-Sep-2018 15:41
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jb5:

 

Recently as in when?

 

 

Changes were staggered across regions I believe but started back in June this year.

 

More details found about the change found in this thread:-

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=158&topicid=236018


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