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Reply # 2106471 11-Oct-2018 19:47

hio77: ... Sure they appear to be having a slight teething issue.

They've also been doing this long enough in multiple locations. From their About page: 'A long time ago, at a computer not far away, our hero Sam Crawford was hard at work ...' The MLab site linked above states 'Founded in 2008, SamKnows works alongside ...'

10 years later, I would have hoped they had ironed out a lot of the wrinkles in their go-live process.

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Reply # 2106513 11-Oct-2018 21:12

Talkiet:

The data collection is in a test phase at the moment. There will be no RSP comparison reports generated from current data and I suspect they are still making sure the servers are dimensioned appropriately.

Throwing around comments like I see here is irresponsible, especially at this stage.

All of the issues mentioned here have been hashed out between industry experts and Samknows/Comcom. I think it's fair to say that the technical RSP representatives were very impressed with the Samknows expertise and methodology - both for data collection and for the analysis constraints. It's in a different league to the previous Comcom testing.

If you're still seeing really inconsistent results after they launch properly (after you see their PUBLIC reports) then it's reasonable to ask questions about why the data seems inconsistent - until then you don't know if the data is going to be used, or even if it's using final test servers or traffic paths.

Cheers - N

OK, that completely changes the situation. I had no idea they were in a testing phase. Problem here is that this hasn't been communicated very well at all - I thought the system was live. From an end-user point of view, the situation is they sent me a box, gave me access to the portal and told me I was all set up. No info from any official channel that this was not live. All I've seen is unbelievably inaccurate results, which concerned me greatly. I had absolutely no reason to believe that the data should not have been accurate.

I have an open case with SamKnows - it will be very interesting to see if they make mention of the fact that they are still tuning. The first level engineer made absolutely no mention of them being in testing.

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Reply # 2106547 11-Oct-2018 23:36

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The other interesting wrinkle I suspect will be is the number of folks on GB plans and if the Whitebox can really keep up with that.

We know it's hitting the MLab servers at REANNZ. I assume they are 10GB connected. The weathermap doesn't indicate if they are 10GB and what frequency the graphs take their stats... The year graph is pretty interesting for Auckland though:

Auckland: https://weathermap.reannz.co.nz/node.php?src=and01&int=xe_0_0_9

Wellington: https://weathermap.reannz.co.nz/node.php?src=and02&int=xe_0_2_7

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Reply # 2106559 11-Oct-2018 23:46

I was reading the archive thread @hio77 posted earlier, apparently their nodes at WIX and CHIX were only 1gbit and they are going to/have upgraded to 10gbit because of the Samknows testing

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Reply # 2106561 11-Oct-2018 23:49

dfnt:

I was reading the archive thread @hio77 posted earlier, apparently their nodes at WIX and CHIX were only 1gbit and they are going to/have upgraded to 10gbit because of the Samknows testing

based on the graphs i'd suspect that work has not been finalized yet, or mlabs still has a 1G link to them.

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Reply # 2106564 11-Oct-2018 23:53

hio77:

dfnt:

I was reading the archive thread @hio77 posted earlier, apparently their nodes at WIX and CHIX were only 1gbit and they are going to/have upgraded to 10gbit because of the Samknows testing

based on the graphs i'd suspect that work has not been finalized yet, or mlabs still has a 1G link to them.

According to this post: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2018-September/022888.html

"The nodes each consist of 4 x Dell servers front ended by a Juniper QFX switch. They're connected at 10Gbps"

So, they are already 10 Gbps.

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Reply # 2106569 11-Oct-2018 23:56

SiliconAudio:

hio77:

dfnt:

I was reading the archive thread @hio77 posted earlier, apparently their nodes at WIX and CHIX were only 1gbit and they are going to/have upgraded to 10gbit because of the Samknows testing

based on the graphs i'd suspect that work has not been finalized yet, or mlabs still has a 1G link to them.

According to this post: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/2018-September/022888.html

"The nodes each consist of 4 x Dell servers front ended by a Juniper QFX switch. They're connected at 10Gbps"

So, they are already 10 Gbps.

I'm aware of what was said, as i said 'based on the graphs'.

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Reply # 2106573 12-Oct-2018 00:12

In case anyone missed it, the Technical FAQ PDF linked in that post is an excellent read.

A whole bunch of info in there that also covers off the story behind the NZ-based servers. Wish I'd found this earlier :) Tell me it wasn't only dumb me who missed this.

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