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#2193266 7-Mar-2019 21:49

tsee:

@trig42 considering I'm challenged even trying to post pics up to this site I'm just not game enough to give it a go myself. An electrician might be able to use the existing cable as a draw wire but that might be risky given internally there's no conduit in place just holes drilled in the house framing with the cable fed through during initial construction. I should imagine the bend angle where the cable rises from the wall to feed along the ceiling cavity will be pretty sharp too. I suppose I should get someone in to give me a professional opinion of what realistic options I have, but I'll need to weigh that up against the risk that if I go ahead and something happens to that cat5e cable that is already in place I could be back to a dial-up modem as my only option.

@Cyril7 my first diagram was pretty light on detail. Here is a more accuarte layout though not to scale as my MS Paint skills are on a par with my image upload skills.

Where the ETP is located is there a power point on that back wall there near the ETP? If so could you not just pull the cat 5 back in to the house and put the ont near the ETP on the inside of the house close to a power point providing there is one there

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#2193323 8-Mar-2019 07:19

@sparkz25 that's what I orginally thought the Chorus techs would do, but they refused. I'll need to get a professional in to do that if it's an option as I just don't have the confidence or skill. cheers

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#2193374 8-Mar-2019 08:57

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@sparkz25 that's what I orginally thought the Chorus techs would do, but they refused. I'll need to get a professional in to do that if it's an option as I just don't have the confidence or skill. cheers

Ahhhh that word CHORUS says it all, get a sparky in and they should be able to sort it easy as, to me that would be the simplest solution and less faffing about. I though this was a UFF job in hamilton for some reason?

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#2193408 8-Mar-2019 09:30

Yutani: We just had a fibre install done this week.
They will put the ONT on the house as close as practicable to where the fibre arrives at the outside wall of your house. They will place it up a wall but only to a height that can be still be reached without a ladder. UFF techtold me there are 5 ports available - you can get an additional 3 ports brought in to your property - so the ONT must be accessible without ladder for these hypothetical future extra connections.

Short answer : nope.

I just received the fibre installation plan for my block of 7 houses (cross lease).

We are the house closest to the pole (U1) so the fibre will enter the property at the front left corner of our front yard, run in the ground down the length of our house and terminate in one of those fat boxes on our rear wall, from where the back four houses will be connected.

I don't want the ONT on the back rear wall - this is our dining room. All the network/TV gear is on the opposite side of the house, meaning I would need to run a CAT6 cable across the dining room and front door. Basically the logical place for the ONT is where the ETP is planned on every other unit.

Frustratingly the ideal place for the ONT is very near to where the fibre from the street enters our property - it would be an easy under-grass install the whole way. Imagine a straight red line branching off directly above the "&" in the bottom box. Coming from the back wall will require either a) an annoying fibre cable tacked to the outside of the house and having to negotiate existing heat pump ducting, garden shed and aerial wires etc, or b) a terrible internal placement of the ONT.

What are my options? Should I ask for an amendment to the plan that connects my house directly at the front, leaving the fat box on the rear wall solely for the rear houses (is this even possible)? Or do I just see what happens once they come to do the install?

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#2193416 8-Mar-2019 09:43

Hi, in the plan shown are you where exactly do you want the ONT to go?

By the way I am currently dealing with a similar MDU situation for my property in Hataiai, which is technically a standalone home, but for various and reasonable reasons is being cabled as if an MDU along with two other buildings one of which contains 4 sub tenancies. After multiple going back and forth with UGC (who were very helpfull and co operative) a design was stuck which did not align with my original proposal but at least I got what I felt was acceptable, then the guys with the tools turn up, and guess what, threw the plan out the window and went with a plan similar to my original proposal (rolls eyes!)

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#2193417 8-Mar-2019 09:43

Edit, removed duplicate

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#2193439 8-Mar-2019 10:08

cyril7:

Hi, in the plan shown are you where exactly do you want the ONT to go?

By the way I am currently dealing with a similar MDU situation for my property in Hataiai, which is technically a standalone home, but for various and reasonable reasons is being cabled as if an MDU along with two other buildings one of which contains 4 sub tenancies. After multiple going back and forth with UGC (who were very helpfull and co operative) a design was stuck which did not align with my original proposal but at least I got what I felt was acceptable, then the guys with the tools turn up, and guess what, threw the plan out the window and went with a plan similar to my original proposal (rolls eyes!)

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I'd like the ONT to go at the site of the purple box. The purple line is my proposed "easy path" under the grass. But I don't know if it's even practical/possible to branch off a run like that.

Point taken about the best laid plans etc. That is partly why I am tempted to forget about requesting an amendment to the plan and just pleading my case when they turn up to do the install...

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#2193441 8-Mar-2019 10:15

So when I was sent the plans from UGC I replied to their email address with a marked up diagram (just as you have, and they got back within a week and were very communiative. In my case the main thing I wanted is that they acknowledged where my ETP really was and that I wanted it use, there plan did not acknowledge that, so they were plannning landing on the wrong part of my building. So at least I got that included and regardless of the final outcome they landed the cable where I wanted it, not some random point they had chosen. So I would definitely engage.

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#2193446 8-Mar-2019 10:21

cyril7:

So when I was sent the plans from UGC I replied to their email address with a marked up diagram (just as you have, and they got back within a week and were very communiative. In my case the main thing I wanted is that they acknowledged where my ETP really was and that I wanted it use, there plan did not acknowledge that, so they were plannning landing on the wrong part of my building. So at least I got that included and regardless of the final outcome they landed the cable where I wanted it, not some random point they had chosen. So I would definitely engage.

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Thanks. I just noticed that the ETP placement for my unit is actually marked on the plan (not sure how I missed it) - it is right under my dining table in the middle of the dining room. So certainly not ideal if the ONT is on the other side of the wall.

I'll do a slightly more elegant markup tonight and email it through as you suggested.

I guess the only weird thing about my suggested change is that it involves a BUDI being placed on my rear wall that does not actually service my house. But I can't see why that would need to be an issue.

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#2193799 8-Mar-2019 17:04

quickymart:

Is this something @coffeebaron could help with maybe?

Just been looking though the posts. From what I have gathered;

- ONT could be placed on wall that backs onto the current ETP

- There is a CAT5e cable going from this ETP to patch panel

- That cable could be pulled through the wall that backs onto ETP and turned into a data port?

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#2193839 8-Mar-2019 17:56

Hi I think the issue is that the ont directly behind the ETP is in the middle of a wall that may not be covered by furniture, if not now maybe in the future, this will naturally upset she who must not be upset.

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#2193900 8-Mar-2019 18:28

coffeebaron:

quickymart:

Is this something @coffeebaron could help with maybe?

Just been looking though the posts. From what I have gathered;

- ONT could be placed on wall that backs onto the current ETP

- There is a CAT5e cable going from this ETP to patch panel

- That cable could be pulled through the wall that backs onto ETP and turned into a data port?

this is exactly what i have mentioned

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