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  # 2357246 19-Nov-2019 13:21
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Need to do a bit more reading on this, but being a Chorus product it's access plus a bit of national backhaul. The videos above discuss international file transfer etc and seem to imply that this new product will make a significant difference to performance for that kind of service? Is it up to the RSP to sort out the remainder of the link?


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  # 2357253 19-Nov-2019 13:26
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I think that this is awesome. Though, surely our international contention issues have been eased with the 'new' international fibre connection that finished earlier this year? 

 

 






 
 
 
 


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  # 2357260 19-Nov-2019 13:37
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DjShadow:

 

hio77:

 

DjShadow:

 

Are there any consumer type routers on the market that can support this?

 

 

Nope.

 

 

 

Even in the IT world it's not cheap, Heavily depends on stack your connecting to etc.

 

if providers drop to IPoE rather than PPPoE it becomes reasonably possible with a cheap mikrotik or x86 router build.

 

 

Just found this (overpriced) offering from Asus that comes with a 2.5gig port: https://www.asus.com/nz/Networking/ROG-Rapture-GT-AX11000/

 

 

 

 

In terms of that router though. I can confirm, it's predecessor the GT-AC5300 is freaking ridiculous. and I loved it. 

In terms of wifi range, I can honestly say there's been absolutely NOTHING that's even compared to it, that I've used. Quite easily walked down the road a not insignificant distance and still had strong signal. 

 

Actually thinking of buying this new one.






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  # 2357264 19-Nov-2019 13:42
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Chorus are not offering any backhaul at the moment. Tail Extn is not available. Meaning the ISP needs a UFB handover in Queenstown to service those areas and a large backhaul pipe out of there.

 

There is a $400 upgrade fee per connection as well.

 

 

 

I guess we will see what the market does but I feel very few ISPs will offer this, I would expect the likes of MyRepublic and Trustpower to offer it for marketing and PR value.
However I doubt they will upgrade much if any of there backhaul network.

 

The cost to by domestic and international backhaul and transit is pretty expensive and prices are not moving down at a very fast rate.

 

Most people will not touch the sides of there 100Mb connection, let alone 1Gb. The few that actually are, are not the kind of customers any ISP actually wants, as there likely using more bandwidth than what the generate in profit.


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  # 2357278 19-Nov-2019 14:24
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halper86:

 

Sounddude:

 

I do giggle at the fact that Chorus is launching in Arrowtown first.

 

Same place Spark 5g is targeting for first launch.

 

 

Public launch? Alexandra already has 5g in testing phase at the moment. :0

 

 

lol. It's tick tack toe.

 

 

 

has been this way since the first backhaul play was put out there..





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  # 2357280 19-Nov-2019 14:31
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Will there be an SFP+ XGS-Pon ONT option, I found quite a few on the interwebs.

 

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  # 2357302 19-Nov-2019 15:27
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Meanwhile at Chorus HQ:

 

Sheet!  Spark's 5G is launching!  People won't need fibre anymore!!  What'll we do?  Quick! Grab one of those smoke bombs we've got.  No no not the one labelled "5G won't end airtime congestion".  Argh No!!! Put down the "5G causes cancer" one, that'll go off in our face.  Here grab this one,  "2000Mb/s & 4,000Mb/s plans".  OK OK what's a cool term everyone's prefixing their products with.  What's Elon love? Oh yea, Hyper.  Ok, write "Hyperfibre" on it and throw it.  Now ring up RSM again, use a fake voice, and see if they'll give us some spectrum.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2357348 19-Nov-2019 16:42
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The planned services will be symmetric, with the same speeds for both download and upload

 

To whoever at Chorus made this decision - THANK YOU!

 

I was worried the 450Mbps "gigabit" service was a slippery slope to our internet plans becoming increasingly asymetrical. Nothing like a 4Gbps upload speed to emphatically reject that.


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  # 2357351 19-Nov-2019 16:51
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Sounddude:

I do giggle at the fact that Chorus is launching in Arrowtown first.


Same place Spark 5g is targeting for first launch.



Especially as the ufb rollout won't be complete the until 2021 - clearly a marketing tactic

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  # 2357357 19-Nov-2019 17:09
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cyril7:

 

Will there be an SFP+ XGS-Pon ONT option, I found quite a few on the interwebs.

 

Cyril

 

 

Now you are talking


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# 2357489 19-Nov-2019 21:20
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sonyxperiageek:

 

Which other 9 countries can do up to 10Gbps?

 

 

 

 

Poland - 10/10 - $40 - https://www.inea.pl/oferta/dla-ciebie/swiatlowod

 

Switzerland - 10/10 - $80 - https://fiber.salt.ch/en/fiber/internet

 

Sweden - 10/10 - $81 - https://www.bahnhof.se/villafiber/

 

France - 10/? - $87 (includes IPTV, Netflix, and Amazon Prime) - https://www.free.fr/freebox/fibre-optique/

 

Japan (since 2015!) - 10/2.5 - $93 - https://www.nuro.jp/10g/

 

South Korea - 10/? - $125 (12 month contract) - http://www.skbroadband.com/product/internet/Page.do?retUrl=/product/internet/GigaPremiumX10

 

Singapore - 10/2 - $217 - https://www.singtel.com/personal/products-services/broadband/fibre-broadband-plans

 

US (very limited areas) - 10/10 - $391 (10TB cap) - https://xmission.com/10Gigabit

 

Hong Kong (also since 2015!) - 10/2.5 - $577 (ouch!) - https://www.netvigator.com/eng/info/list-price.html

 

 

 

Supposedly also Norway, Qatar, and Taiwan, but I struggled to find them.

 

 


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  # 2357493 19-Nov-2019 21:34
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@BMarquis Disappointed you missed my hood in the early upgrades... I'm totally more important than @freitasm's hood.

 

Not that I really need any more than Gigabit anyway. But maybe it'll push me to upgrading my network to 10Gbit.





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  # 2357497 19-Nov-2019 21:37
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Guess the NDA is over...

 

https://old.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/dyceou/trialing_10gb_residential_fibre_in_new_zealand/

 

 





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  # 2357498 19-Nov-2019 21:38
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I will say I'm pretty satisfied with gigabit atm. I will upgrade once plans become a bit more reasonable which I'm sure wont happen till its been on the market for 2-3 years and the tech has matured a bit.




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  # 2357548 19-Nov-2019 22:17
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Lias:

 

Hopefully we'll see pricing for the other synchronous plans start to trickle down.. be amazing to see 100/20 replaced with 100/100 or 200/200 as the standard entry level.

 

 

Probably not because IIRC GPON is 2:1 down:up?


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