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  # 2371170 9-Dec-2019 13:41
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Sweet, Might just do that and save myself some trouble with the rest of these horrible bloody things.


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  # 2371230 9-Dec-2019 14:19
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If you're going to do that, I'd suggest if you're going to directly punch down the external run cable, you get a CAT6 RJ45 socket, as IIRC the 049 lead ins are usually 0.6mm cable (though it's been a long time since I've had to work with cable diameter). Better solution would be if you could find out where it's coming up out of the ground or into the house, put an electrical junction box there or flag down a Chorus tech and ask for a Chorus ETP, and run new CAT6 cable all the way back out to your new demarc, replacing the nasty old 049 and running CAT6 directly into your RJ45.

 

If you do have a CAT5e socket already, strip a bit of CAT5e cable, and use some 2 port connectors to join the CAT5e wiring to the 049 lead in cable, which is a bit nicer than just jamming it into a IDC rated for smaller cables.





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  # 2371253 9-Dec-2019 14:36
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Hi, across all brands of RJ45 sockets I have seen they are rated to accept cable upto 0.63mm regardless of Cat5e or 6, and from practical experience I have never had issues terminating 0.63mm 049 on a Cat5e socket, infact only over the weekend I connected a 20m length that was run between my house and a rental cottage on our property to convert it to run fast ethernet, stock Dynamix cat5e sockets worked just fine.

 

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  # 2371720 10-Dec-2019 13:09
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toejam316:

 

If you're going to do that, I'd suggest if you're going to directly punch down the external run cable, you get a CAT6 RJ45 socket, as IIRC the 049 lead ins are usually 0.6mm cable (though it's been a long time since I've had to work with cable diameter). Better solution would be if you could find out where it's coming up out of the ground or into the house, put an electrical junction box there or flag down a Chorus tech and ask for a Chorus ETP, and run new CAT6 cable all the way back out to your new demarc, replacing the nasty old 049 and running CAT6 directly into your RJ45.

 

If you do have a CAT5e socket already, strip a bit of CAT5e cable, and use some 2 port connectors to join the CAT5e wiring to the 049 lead in cable, which is a bit nicer than just jamming it into a IDC rated for smaller cables.

 



I know where it comes into the house. You recommend a junction box there converting the black lead in cable to CAT6 and then running cat 6 to different jacks through the house? Is cat6 suitable for daisy chaining? What would be the best way to split the cat6 cable? I currently have 4 jacks in the house but would be happy to cut this down to 3 or even 2.

If I replaced all the jacks with rj45, how would I go about connecting my router with the DSL cable that is RJ11?

Sorry to be a pain but I'd like to do it as properly as possible.




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  # 2371734 10-Dec-2019 13:31
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Current cart at PB Tech. Anything I've missed?


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  # 2371782 10-Dec-2019 13:58
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Hi, that crimping tool is for jacks not sockets that you require, try this one

 

 

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/TOLPSK0144/ProsKit-CP-3152-Impact-and-Punch-Down-Tool-With-11

 

 

 

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  # 2371830 10-Dec-2019 14:28
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What are you wanting to achieve? If you only have DSL and no phone why do you want to daisy chain jacks?

 
 
 
 




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  # 2371865 10-Dec-2019 16:03
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Bung: What are you wanting to achieve? If you only have DSL and no phone why do you want to daisy chain jacks?


I want to replace the current wiring with cat6 and rj45 to get away from the BT. I dont plan on ever having a phone installed but i guess i could leave one jack in. The current bt ports are all daisy chained off the master jack which is hardwired to the lead in cable (no ETP).

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  # 2371869 10-Dec-2019 16:09
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Hi, your leadin should connect to a socket (BT or RJ45) and only your modem connect to that, if you daisy chain further jacks either now or in the future you will compromise the DSL signal.

 

So dont add any daisy chained sockets, get with the program its nearly 2020, at the first outlet put your modem, on that faceplate add more RJ45 sockets that are fully wired as 568a wiring as direct (not daisy chained) to each of the outlets in each other room, ie star wire fully wired data oulets from the modem location to each room, this will now allow you to reticulate Ethernet from the modem. Do not reticualte the DSL signal, this should termianate at the first socket and go no futher, but ethernet can.

 

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  # 2371960 10-Dec-2019 18:06
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cyril7:

Hi, your leadin should connect to a socket (BT or RJ45) and only your modem connect to that, if you daisy chain further jacks either now or in the future you will compromise the DSL signal.


So dont add any daisy chained sockets, get with the program its nearly 2020, at the first outlet put your modem, on that faceplate add more RJ45 sockets that are fully wired as 568a wiring as direct (not daisy chained) to each of the outlets in each other room, ie star wire fully wired data oulets from the modem location to each room, this will now allow you to reticulate Ethernet from the modem. Do not reticualte the DSL signal, this should termianate at the first socket and go no futher, but ethernet can.


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Yep thats my plan now. Have all the things in the cart to achieve that. Thanks all.

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  # 2372001 10-Dec-2019 20:46
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ShobbysLead: If I replaced all the jacks with rj45, how would I go about connecting my router with the DSL cable that is RJ11?

You can buy rj 45 to rj12 cables (rj12 are the same as rj11 apart from an extra pair, make sure you wire it correctly :) )
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABDNX0091/Dynamix-C-RJ1245-2-2m-RJ12-to-RJ45-Cable---4C-All

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  # 2372006 10-Dec-2019 21:00
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halper86:
ShobbysLead: If I replaced all the jacks with rj45, how would I go about connecting my router with the DSL cable that is RJ11?

You can buy rj 45 to rj12 cables (rj12 are the same as rj11 apart from an extra pair, make sure you wire it correctly :) )
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABDNX0091/Dynamix-C-RJ1245-2-2m-RJ12-to-RJ45-Cable---4C-All

 

 

 

Cross connected though?





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  # 2372865 12-Dec-2019 04:54
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hio77:

halper86:
ShobbysLead: If I replaced all the jacks with rj45, how would I go about connecting my router with the DSL cable that is RJ11?

You can buy rj 45 to rj12 cables (rj12 are the same as rj11 apart from an extra pair, make sure you wire it correctly :) )
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CABDNX0091/Dynamix-C-RJ1245-2-2m-RJ12-to-RJ45-Cable---4C-All


 


Cross connected though?


Possibly, but that would be easy to work around by just punching down different pins on the wall plate instead :)

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  # 2372939 12-Dec-2019 08:55
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If cross connected refers to moving to the BT 2/5 position wouldn't it be not applicable if both ends of the cord were US style? The voice/telco connection in RJ layouts is always symmetrically the contacts either side of the centre line of them socket.

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