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'That VDSL Cat'
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  #2391440 13-Jan-2020 23:28
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but neil! what about the speedtest! that's the main reason to go for it!

 

 

 

Gotta show up that NBN





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  #2391447 14-Jan-2020 07:42
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nztim:
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Most likely, IMO the fastest internet speed available is the one to go for. 

 

 

 

Is it overkill, YES! Will I still get it? If the price is OK. 

 



When ADSL2+ was launched people said 24mbps was overkill, in 2012 I was one of the first Vodafone HFC customers to go to 100mbps the downer engineer who replaced my cable modem said its was overkill, now its the standard. In 8 years time I see 10gbps being the standard.

 

 

 

I disagree completely.

 

Except 10Gbps is going to deliver zero benefit for most users, not just now, but in years time. The reason 1Gbps plans are priced how they are is because the average throughout utilisation is no different to somebody with a 100Mbps connection. Likewise the first 4Gbps plans out the door are priced incredibly competitively because they know that the average throughput utilisation really isn't going to be any higher, and for those that have it and can utilitise it that traffic is very likely to all be on net to a CDN.

 

In 10 years time you're still going to be able to stream 8K video using a 100Mbps connection.

 

The main market for 4Gbps plans right now is people with too much money who simply have to brag about the fastest speedtest results. The actual browsing and Internet experience isn't going to change.

 

The move from ADSL to ADSL2+ and then VDSL and HFC / fibre has seen people's experience change significantly, especially increased upload which has changed the way people work.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2391460 14-Jan-2020 08:48
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sbiddle:

 

nztim:
Shindig:

 

Most likely, IMO the fastest internet speed available is the one to go for. 

 

 

 

Is it overkill, YES! Will I still get it? If the price is OK. 

 



When ADSL2+ was launched people said 24mbps was overkill, in 2012 I was one of the first Vodafone HFC customers to go to 100mbps the downer engineer who replaced my cable modem said its was overkill, now its the standard. In 8 years time I see 10gbps being the standard.

 

 

 

I disagree completely.

 

Except 10Gbps is going to deliver zero benefit for most users, not just now, but in years time. The reason 1Gbps plans are priced how they are is because the average throughout utilisation is no different to somebody with a 100Mbps connection. Likewise the first 4Gbps plans out the door are priced incredibly competitively because they know that the average throughput utilisation really isn't going to be any higher, and for those that have it and can utilitise it that traffic is very likely to all be on net to a CDN.

 

In 10 years time you're still going to be able to stream 8K video using a 100Mbps connection.

 

The main market for 4Gbps plans right now is people with too much money who simply have to brag about the fastest speedtest results. The actual browsing and Internet experience isn't going to change.

 

The move from ADSL to ADSL2+ and then VDSL and HFC / fibre has seen people's experience change significantly, especially increased upload which has changed the way people work.

 

 

Fair points well argued, TBH my 100mbps on HFC in 2012 was more speedtest bragging rights 

 

 


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  #2391474 14-Jan-2020 09:26
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Not all online bandwidth will be used for streaming and real time human use.

 

The benefits of increased bandwidth will be useful for gathering computational resources, predictions, computer maintenance, etc.

 

It is going to be interesting to see the online bandwidth demands if and when quantum computing gets going.

 

Teleportation is going to need some good bandwidth.... I would hate to have half a delivery and end up like: The Fly (movie - 1958 and 1986)





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  #2391510 14-Jan-2020 09:51
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I cant wait for hyperfibre so that my emails will be faster to arrive!


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  #2391512 14-Jan-2020 09:51
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I'm waiting for Spark to offer a wireless solution as a comparison to 2GB fibre - must be due out any day now.....


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  #2391571 14-Jan-2020 10:57
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IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.


 
 
 
 


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  #2391601 14-Jan-2020 11:51
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johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

 

 

I actually laughed.





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  #2391603 14-Jan-2020 11:54
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richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

 

 

More than enough for My Space & Bebo 😝





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  #2391604 14-Jan-2020 11:54
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richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Laugh away mate laugh away


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  #2391606 14-Jan-2020 11:56
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richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Why? It's true.

 

Consider for a moment that anyone on here is a part of a massively biased self selected sample.

 

What's the most BW intensive thing most people do? Netflix?

 

That's a nominal 25Mbps for 4K  but the individual streams aren't generally that high (take a look at the actual BW consumed for a UHD show) - and their HD profile is from 5Mbps - so even multiple users on a single 30Mbps connection are not going to have a noticable impact in "most households".

 

Cheers - N





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  #2391608 14-Jan-2020 11:58
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johny99:

 

richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Laugh away mate laugh away

 

 

Psh, I'm sure i recall you selling more of the higher plans!





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  #2391611 14-Jan-2020 12:02
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hio77:

 

johny99:

 

richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Laugh away mate laugh away

 

 

Psh, I'm sure i recall you selling more of the higher plans!

 

 

 

 

had no choice Troy, 


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  #2391612 14-Jan-2020 12:03
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Talkiet:

 

richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Why? It's true.

 

Consider for a moment that anyone on here is a part of a massively biased self selected sample.

 

What's the most BW intensive thing most people do? Netflix?

 

That's a nominal 25Mbps for 4K  but the individual streams aren't generally that high (take a look at the actual BW consumed for a UHD show) - and their HD profile is from 5Mbps - so even multiple users on a single 30Mbps connection are not going to have a noticable impact in "most households".

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 

Thank you Neil.


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  #2391623 14-Jan-2020 12:23
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johny99:

 

richms:

 

johny99:

 

IMHO the 30/10 (50/20 chorus) plan is more than ample for most households.

 

 

I actually laughed.

 

 

Laugh away mate laugh away

 

 

Well enjoy your progress bars while your console is downloading a 46 gig game overnight making the connection unusable for everyone else.





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