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#2741841 9-Jul-2021 13:39

how is hyper fiber less latency?

you wouldn't notice the difference gaming on a 30/10 connection vs a 4000/4000 connection

only when it came to download an update, and any decent gaming service will let you schedule it

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#2741843 9-Jul-2021 13:42

CuriousTraveler:

All I am saying is it's worth getting HyperFibre - its much faster and less latency which is good for gaming. i.e. FPS shooters and online games.

At this stage I'm starting to think you're just trolling... Hyperfibre is faster if the remote end can support it and if the latency is very low. In most cases, that's of no real world benefit.

The claim that latency is better is true only in theory - the serialisation of higher speed interfaces is usually faster than of lower speed interfaces. However if you think that's going to translate into ANY noticable difference in games or even in most synthetic tests, you're deluding yourself. My FibreMax achieves about 1ms to local servers. Any improvement from Hyperfibre therefore is going to be less than 1ms.

I like Hyperfibre from a technical viewpoint, and the moment someone says they want it cos its cool and they just want the fastest without regard to marginal utility over 1G products, I'll shutup - but please stop with the mis-information.

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#2741844 9-Jul-2021 13:43

CuriousTraveler:

All I am saying is it's worth getting HyperFibre - its much faster and less latency which is good for gaming. i.e. FPS shooters and online games.

@CuriousTraveler Hyper Fibre does not change the speed that light can travel at

Trust me you do not need Hyper Fibre!

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#2743789 13-Jul-2021 20:19

Press release today:

Christchurch City owned and operated fibre broadband provider, Enable, is bringing the future to Christchurch with the launch of Hyperfibre from early August 2021.

This next generation of fibre technology is being made available across Christchurch’s Central Business District to support the ongoing growth of the city and is the first stage in Enable’s rollout across the community.

“Christchurch has a fantastic central city designed to reflect the way people want to work and live today, and in the future. Hyperfibre – with some of the fastest broadband speeds available anywhere in the world – will be another ingredient that makes our city a great place to live,” says Enable CEO, Steve Fuller.

Fibre broadband is already the fastest, highest performing and most reliable broadband in the market. It is already essential for most of the Christchurch community who want to be able to rely on their broadband connection. Hyperfibre is set to be the essential broadband service of the future – particularly with its astronomical symmetrical (download and upload) speeds of up to eight gigabits per second (8Gbps).

“For our community having access to truly world-class fibre connectivity – in terms of speed, performance, and reliability – is a huge enabler of how we live now and will play an even bigger role in our future,” says Enable CEO, Steve Fuller.

“Enable is investing in this future now. Hyperfibre will meet the growing needs for greater upload speeds – which are critically important in areas like telehealth, remote working and distance learning, not to mention for technology and digital businesses looking to reach global markets.”

“It’s going to be exciting to see what the likes of these businesses, avid gamers and school students, our leaders of tomorrow, can do with Hyperfibre.”

Hyperfibre delivers download speeds more than forty times faster than the average broadband speed enjoyed in New Zealand today and 300 times faster than the average speed provided by the likes of fixed wireless broadband.

“From early August businesses, residences and even schools inside the four avenues of Moorhouse, Fitzgerald, Bealey and Deans can be the first locals to explore the possibilities of up to 8Gbps fibre broadband,” added Mr Fuller.

Enable is launching a range of Hyperfibre products – including 2Gbps, 4Gbps and 8Gbps, all with the symmetrical download and upload speeds. At launch, Enable is offering a promotional wholesale price to internet providers of $75 per month for 2Gbps, 4Gbps and 8Gbps Hyperfibre products suitable for homes and most businesses. This introductory price will apply for 24 months from launch.

The new service will be made available to the rest of our community over the next 18 to 24 months as the new technology is rolled out.

Enable is looking for expressions of interest from anyone within the central city who has the vision to make the most of Hyperfibre and is hoping to have the first few customers connected and enjoying the service in August. Those interested should visit www.enable.net.nz/hyperfibre to find out more.

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#2744676 15-Jul-2021 16:21

wow, generous pricing to the RSP's !

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#2744681 15-Jul-2021 16:30

dt:

wow, generous pricing to the RSP's !

If the RSPs were interested.

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#2745229 16-Jul-2021 16:11

A lot of investment needed for RSP networks before they consider offering HF, let alone taking the promo price @dt …

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#2938575 5-Jul-2022 16:44

It's been almost a year since the last post in this thread so I was keen to hear experiences from anyone who ended up getting HyperFibre - which plan did you get, what has it been like, who's your ISP, etc.

Also, I'm considering upgrading my router and have been looking at the UDM-PRO or UDM-SE. Both have an SFP+ WAN port - can this be used with HyperFibre or do you have to use the RJ45 WAN port?

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#2938585 5-Jul-2022 16:56

You will get a new or additional ONT depending on your order, I got one that is Nokia Branded and you use the 10Gb Ethernet Port to connect your router/firewall

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#2938601 5-Jul-2022 17:52

amanzi:

Do you have to use the RJ45 WAN port?

Short story short, yes you do. Short story longer, you can get an SFP+ to RJ45 module for around $100. I have a Mikrotik branded one and it gets extremely hot, but does the trick.

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#2938611 5-Jul-2022 18:40

Not exactly answering the question but since the last posts on this thread I've changed internet connection speed and noticed no difference whatsoever, for my family of 4 moderately heavy users. I went from gig to 100/30 and save $20 per month

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#2938613 5-Jul-2022 18:53

Digmarx:

amanzi:

Do you have to use the RJ45 WAN port?

Short story short, yes you do. Short story longer, you can get an SFP+ to RJ45 module for around $100. I have a Mikrotik branded one and it gets extremely hot, but does the trick.

Ah - of course. I see PB Tech have the Ubiquity SFP+ to RJ45 module for about $130, and then I'd obviously need a CAT6a or higher patch cable. No other issues connecting the UDM-Pro to HyperFibre with these two items? Do all these modules run hot or is that a 'feature' of the Mikrotik one?

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#2938614 5-Jul-2022 19:00

amanzi:
Ah - of course. I see PB Tech have the Ubiquity SFP+ to RJ45 module for about $130, and then I'd obviously need a CAT6a or higher patch cable. No other issues connecting the UDM-Pro to HyperFibre with these two items? Do all these modules run hot or is that a 'feature' of the Mikrotik one?

You will also need a 10g switch or equivalent or that to uplink to else it defeats the point given the switch on the UDM’s are only 1gig - unless you plan on saturating a couple of the 1gig ports with WAN traffic.

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#2938637 5-Jul-2022 20:44

Last year I was holding off because of the general consensus that all ISPs offering HF were rubbish. I haven't seen any new HF offerings since then, but would be keen to hear if I'm wrong.

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#2938640 5-Jul-2022 20:54

Jiriteach: You will also need a 10g switch or equivalent or that to uplink to else it defeats the point given the switch on the UDM’s are only 1gig - unless you plan on saturating a couple of the 1gig ports with WAN traffic.

Yep, I've been eying up a couple of 10Gb switches along with a new NAS. But to be honest, I don't think I'll be saturating any ports any time soon, it's more for testing and playing around than anything.

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