Is Clevedon really a black hole in broadband coverage , as per Phil Golf can't work from home.

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#2466705 20-Apr-2020 22:38

He lives on Creightons road between Clevedon and Hunua in a valley surrounded by high ridge lines.

We have friends that live within 500m and they have no access to ADSL/VDSL/Fibre and no mobile coverage.

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#2466709 20-Apr-2020 23:10

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coffeebaron:

If the below is up to date, then he is 4km from the cabinet ..... So slow ADSL.

https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/organisation/auckland-mayor-phil-goff/about

Solid sleuthing there Mr Baron.. and yes exchange connected. CCM shows it isn't the best.

Plus looking at mobile coverage both Vodafone and Spark show poor coverage.

But a point to point link with a neighbor down the road who can get VDSL would be the best option IMHO.

Also is a WISP that has reached out to him a few times...

Point is, if his internet is so bad he has to make news about it... He should look at options.

If he's going to work because as an essential? worker, that's best suited to get the job done. all be it, long as he does it safely.

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#2466754 21-Apr-2020 07:03

decibel:
At least this is not as bad as Simon Bridges claiming he has to drive from Tauranga to Wellington in order to get a good internet connection.

I live in the neighbouring suburb to Bridges, his claim that the internet where he lives is no good is absolute bullocks, most likely he has a poor home network and as most of us here on GZ know, many people confuse the two.

About 50 per cent of the time my internet doesn’t work

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#2466788 21-Apr-2020 08:18

Kiwifruta:
decibel:

At least this is not as bad as Simon Bridges claiming he has to drive from Tauranga to Wellington in order to get a good internet connection.

I live in the neighbouring suburb to Bridges, his claim that the internet where he lives is no good is absolute bullocks, most likely he has a poor home network and as most of us here on GZ know, many people confuse the two.

About 50 per cent of the time my internet doesn’t work

Just because you have good internet in your neighborhood does not mean Simon Bridges has good interenet.

I have just gone on to UFB in the last six months as it has become available.

Prior to that we were on ADSL as that is all that was available ( Actually I did go to 4G ) no VDSL. My spped was about 3.5 - 4 Mbps if I was lucky.

I often would go days and weeks with little of no internet, we could not load a NZ Herald webpage as 17/20 packets were being dropped.

Chorus would not fix it as fibre was coming soon ( took 5 years )

I begged 2deg and Chorus to replace my overhead cable but they refused. ( this was done 6 - 8 weeks before UFB was installed as they replaced the wooden pole outside our house )

However a stones throw away over the ridge they have UFB, they even had fiber before the UFB was announced so they had amazing internet.

The row of houses behind me are on a cabinet and get amazing internet.

Our street was left out of good internet for a very long time, luckily the Telecos started using 4G, I was one of the first with Skinny and it was amazing, for two weeks, then was oversubscribed and was worse than what we had.

About 2 years later I went to netspeed ( used Vodafone )and relied on that for 18 months or so before UFB arrived, that was very good.

So my very long point is, Just because you have good internet, it does not mean your neighboring suburbs do.

However Simon Bridges should have just driven to his electoral office, surely that has better internet.

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#2466792 21-Apr-2020 08:29

Hi, just a quick property seach finds Mr Bridges address, from there I can see VDSL is available, seems to not be currently connected but neighbouring properies that are on VDSL are in the mid 30Mb/s.

But most importantly fibre is available, has been since 2013 and seems to be connected.

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#2466818 21-Apr-2020 09:00

I would hazard a guess when Phil bought (or built) his house he wasn't thinking about the internet, more what would the views be like.

As to Simon Bridges, I bet that will be solely down to his home network. I know someone who went to uni with him and apparently he could say the most random things at times.

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#2466845 21-Apr-2020 09:48

Kiwifruta:
decibel:
At least this is not as bad as Simon Bridges claiming he has to drive from Tauranga to Wellington in order to get a good internet connection.

I live in the neighbouring suburb to Bridges, his claim that the internet where he lives is no good is absolute bullocks, most likely he has a poor home network and as most of us here on GZ know, many people confuse the two.

About 50 per cent of the time my internet doesn’t work

Yep. One of those people that says "this new fibre isn't very good - I think they installed it wrong".
I have heard many people say that. When you ask a couple of questions, it's always that they have WiFi issues.
Many people don't seem able to work out the difference between internet connection and WiFi in their house.
Doesn't say much for SB's problem solving capabilities I'm afraid.

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#2466917 21-Apr-2020 11:14

Just in case there is any doubt about Simon Bridges, he has UFF UFB at his home and at his electorate office, and it has been available for 6+ years.

And in case there was any doubt, the all Services Available is when he *could* have ordered UFB for the Electorate Office vs Home.

And the "Fibre equipment installed" .. Means he *is already connected UFB installed at that address* so the only excuse is he has a poor home office setup to be able to be effective, or he has never bothered to get anyone around to sort out the internal wifi or networking.

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#2466927 21-Apr-2020 11:15

SATTV:

Just because you have good internet in your neighborhood does not mean Simon Bridges has good interenet.

Agreed and I didn't say that. I live close enough to know that his suburb has UFB.

UFF laid the fibre network in his suburb years ago. I work for an ISP, and have fixed enough friends and family internet problems to know that > 99% of the time when someone says they have an 'internet problem' in the city they actually have a 'home network' problem.

Here are some examples, five and a half years ago my mum had issues with her ADSL connection, so I paid for @coffeebaron to install a master splitter and fix up a dodgy phone jackpoint in her house. The difference in internet quality was day and night (16-19Mbps download vs <1Mbps download). See here for more info about master splitters. Other friends and acquaintances had trouble with their internet even on Fibre, so I upgraded the firmware on their CPE and selected a better WiFi channel, now it's perfect. Although I recommend running Ethernet cables where possible.

Your ADSL example doesn't prove, although it is possible, the problem was getting the internet to your property. It's quite possible it was the wiring in your house. When UFB was installed the old phone copper wiring in your house was bypassed and is no longer used to connect your CPE to the internet. Old copper vs new optical fibre.

Simon Bridges does not have a problem with the internet connection to his home's property. UFB is available, and as someone else posted above, has been for years. If he is on DSL he should upgrade to Fibre. Chorus have spent considerable cost and effort maintaining and upgrading their copper network, whereas most home owners cannot say the same about their home's copper phone wiring.

Nor does he have poor internet to his office on Third Ave in Tauranga.

He might well have a better office set up at Parliament than at home and at his Tauranga office, which could well be a valid reason for his trips to Wellington.

I've sent Simon an email offering to pop around to his house to sort out his internet, plus also provided a link to the Ubiquiti Dream Machine.

If he lets me in to his property, I bet I can fix it without UFF or Chorus getting involved.

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#2467028 21-Apr-2020 12:55

BarTender:

Just in case there is any doubt about Simon Bridges, he has UFF UFB at his home and at his electorate office, and it has been available for 6+ years.

And in case there was any doubt, the all Services Available is when he *could* have ordered UFB for the Electorate Office vs Home.

And the "Fibre equipment installed" .. Means he *is already connected UFB installed at that address* so the only excuse is he has a poor home office setup to be able to be effective, or he has never bothered to get anyone around to sort out the internal wifi or networking.

I think it's more likely he's just lying like most politicians do. Cynical but when they get caught out breaking the rules that's generally their next move.

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#2467069 21-Apr-2020 13:27

JuiceNZ:

He lives on Creightons road between Clevedon and Hunua in a valley surrounded by high ridge lines.

We have friends that live within 500m and they have no access to ADSL/VDSL/Fibre and no mobile coverage.

by looking Vodafone coverage map, he gets pretty decent 4G signal but no so much with Spark

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#2467083 21-Apr-2020 14:01

1cloud:

JuiceNZ:

He lives on Creightons road between Clevedon and Hunua in a valley surrounded by high ridge lines.

We have friends that live within 500m and they have no access to ADSL/VDSL/Fibre and no mobile coverage.

by looking Vodafone coverage map, he gets pretty decent 4G signal but no so much with Spark

Coverage maps and reality are two very different things.....

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#2467085 21-Apr-2020 14:03

Hi, regardless of all this, he has been offered WISP service which is reasonably priced and offers unlimited data, but from what has been said, its self inflicted, so he has no reason to complain, some folk just cannot be helped, as they say, you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink!

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#2467091 21-Apr-2020 14:06

cyril7:

as they say, you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink!

Great quote!

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#2467502 21-Apr-2020 23:41

nztim:

cyril7:

as they say, you can take a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink!

Great quote!

Shouldn't that be "You can take mare to water but you cannot make it drink"? 😇

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