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  #2476690 5-May-2020 07:28
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It's also not just about speed - also think about service. No point them being the fastest provider in the world if you can't contact them when there's a fault (for example).

 

Also, never choose on price; you get what you pay for (cheaper price but crappy service or pay a little more and get better service).


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  #2476725 5-May-2020 09:00
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michaelmurfy:

 

@nitro While I still recommend Spark as a "simple" ISP I don't support their views on peering in New Zealand especially between ISP's. There is also still a lack of IPv6 even though pretty-much all other providers have support for it these days.

 

IPv6, I can live without if needed but the fact some ISP's are saving money by not peering with Spark because it is cheaper to route traffic to Australia and back to NZ again to Spark really gets me - it shouldn't be like this. This is a subject for another day though.

 

 

neither do i. their peering practice in NZ is akin to what the schoolyard bully does. it's really not how the internet is supposed to work. and while i would prefer the whole world to move to IPv6 already, it looks like it'll be a while yet.

 

however, for the average joe who just wants internet access, spark's offer is as good as anyone else's, and they're quite robust. 

 

note: i don't work for spark, but currently use them.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2476737 5-May-2020 09:34
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I think most others have made all the valid comments, but in the Comcom report from Dec19 linked below, Fig6 pg7 is the most telling detail, ie how much handover capacity to deal with peak hour any ISP has compared to others.

 

https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0032/196709/MBNZ-Spring-2019-report-17-December-2019.pdf

 

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  #2477178 5-May-2020 17:25
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cyril7:

 

I think most others have made all the valid comments, but in the Comcom report from Dec19 linked below, Fig6 pg7 is the most telling detail, ie how much handover capacity to deal with peak hour any ISP has compared to others.

 

https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0032/196709/MBNZ-Spring-2019-report-17-December-2019.pdf

 

my2c

 

Cyril

 

 

 

 

Great, Thank you this is great, it supports the mentioned statements. 

 

 

 

based on your response, I also found this link which shows the market ratio for some of the providers:

 

https://comcom.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0021/212763/2019-Annual-Telecommunications-Monitoring-Report-Revised-version-12-March-2020.pdf

 

Figure 11: Estimated fixed broadband retailer market share by connections 

 

Figure 12: Estimated mobile market shares by subscribers20

 

and other reports:

 

https://comcom.govt.nz/regulated-industries/telecommunications/monitoring-the-telecommunications-market/annual-telecommunications-market-monitoring-report

 

 

 

 


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  #2477193 5-May-2020 17:36
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mohsenhs82:

 

yes, you are 100% correct about the IPv6, but I am thinking of it as an indirect metric for measuring the investment effort, So, it is possible that ISP which spends more on IPV6, also spend more on improving the speed/quality (or not!).

 

 

IPv6 and ISP's spend on their network speed/quality have no relationship at all.

 

For many providers, supporting IPv6 is an cost, not a benefit.

 

 

 

Think about all the impacts that come from supporting it, Sure it's easy to click a few buttons and send out a IPv6 address, but to ensure the correct processes, support and systems are in place is where the real cost is. Running a dual stack network leaves you open to faults like, My internet is fast over IPv4 but slow over IPv6.

 

Now to someone who's IT inclined, that's probably an easy thing to solve but think of average Joe

 

"Sometimes when i use facebook it's slow, Help Please" that could easily translate to say, "Facebook is fast over IPv4 but not IPv6" (just an example)

 

 

 

Real world example from geekzone - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=268389 A fault just on IPv4.





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Any comments made are personal opinion and do not reflect directly on the position my current or past employers may have.

 


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