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  #2489487 22-May-2020 14:40
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cyril7:

 

Final answer, just do it, I cannot not understand why you would stay on copper if fibre is available.

 

Cyril

 

 

Also with the copper withdrawal code, OP you'd have to move sooner or later


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  #2490149 23-May-2020 19:02
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worth thinking about where to run the fibre to. if you have copper cable all through the house, you probably won't want to use that to network the router to all the other rooms.

 

We went from a router downstairs to a router in a more central spot by the TV. Also using powerline network from there to one desktop PC, wifi for everything else.


 
 
 
 


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  #2490168 23-May-2020 19:34
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Im with 2d on Fibre (moved from VDSL as soon as I could). Just do it!

 

Along with the reasons already given I think a lot of people forget about this one: Resale value of your home. You don't mention if you own or rent, however, I will assume own. When it comes to sell your place in the future (if you do) people will absolutely prefer fibre connected over copper connected.  It'll just be another tick in the plus column for any prospective buyers. Its best to get it hooked up whilst the government is still subsidising it cause you're adding value to your house at no direct cost to you!

 

I'll go as far as to say this: People who actively oppose fibre in their street or getting it hooked up to their property are idiots.


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  #2490173 23-May-2020 19:41
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nzkc:

Im with 2d on Fibre (moved from VDSL as soon as I could). Just do it!


Along with the reasons already given I think a lot of people forget about this one: Resale value of your home. You don't mention if you own or rent, however, I will assume own. When it comes to sell your place in the future (if you do) people will absolutely prefer fibre connected over copper connected.  It'll just be another tick in the plus column for any prospective buyers. Its best to get it hooked up whilst the government is still subsidising it cause you're adding value to your house at no direct cost to you!


I'll go as far as to say this: People who actively oppose fibre in their street or getting it hooked up to their property are idiots.



People don't seem to understand that one day, the install may not be free

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  #2490174 23-May-2020 19:41
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Hatch:
Andib:

 

Moving to Fibre will have a positive impact on your latency & performance will be more consistent (No DLM / wet weather issues). 

 

 

Thanks for that input, I wasn’t aware of any wet weather issues with VDSL.

 

 

 

Funny wet weather is mentioned - my Mum's street, since fibre was thrusted down, requires Chorus to come and pump water out of their roadside pits because they fill up with rain water and DOES cause problems for the fibre users


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  #2490177 23-May-2020 19:47
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nztim:

People don't seem to understand that one day, the install may not be free

 

And the big irony is that the boomers (cause its mostly them) will complain the loudest if its suddenly not free!


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  #2490180 23-May-2020 19:57
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nzkc:

 

nztim:

People don't seem to understand that one day, the install may not be free

 

And the big irony is that the boomers (cause its mostly them) will complain the loudest if its suddenly not free!

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2490192 23-May-2020 20:42
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nzkc:

 

nztim:

People don't seem to understand that one day, the install may not be free

 

And the big irony is that the boomers (cause its mostly them) will complain the loudest if its suddenly not free!

 

 

Easy on there, I am a Boomer, was also around when the first internet connections came to our shores, built some of the early TCP/IP networks, not much changed except the scale compared to today.

 

Just remember, those that proceed you, built what you now build on!

 

Thanks for your time

 

Cyril


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  #2490308 23-May-2020 23:34
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Can I add that getting a new type of broadband is a great opportunity to rationalise how you share internet to the various devices in your home. Its also a chance to move the broadband to an enclosed space where you dont have to trip over wires etc, and can run new wires from there to places you need wired internet.

 

If you are expecting to "just use wireless" then consider the router's location for wireless coverage throughout the home. If you need a wifi extender or plan to use a proper wifi access-point, you will have to consider coverage with that in mind -- especially that any extender needs a very good signal from the main router.

 

I agree with the comment about Chorus tacking fibre to fence lines or anywhere else that it might be subject to damage. I suggest that you could demand the fibre be put into conduit if the fenceline really is the only option. In general fibre doesn't have all the problems that DSL has and the speed is not affected by connection quality, only by the amount its shared among all the other users on the same ISP or by how busy is the server/internet that you are accessing.





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  #2490309 23-May-2020 23:34
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cyril7:

 

Easy on there, I am a Boomer, was also around when the first internet connections came to our shores, built some of the early TCP/IP networks, not much changed except the scale compared to today.

 

Just remember, those that proceed you, built what you now build on!

 

Thanks for your time

 

Cyril

 

 

I remember our first 1.6mbps wireless link between our ISP and the Waikato University and a rack of 15 28800 baud modems, then a PCM line and an upgrade to 30 33600 baud modems, and finally a dual PRI with 56k run off an as5300

 

I remember us charging a premium for 56k of $25 per month

 

I remember installing Trumpet Winsock and Netscape Naviagtor on customers Win3.11 and upgrading their hard drives to a whopping 240mb to fit it all on (costing around 1k)

 

I remember installing our first 10base2 Coax network

 

I am OLD

 

 

 

 


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  #2490315 24-May-2020 00:11
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Hatch:

Have heard of people Anecdotally having a crappy time after moving to fibre. So the answer to your convoluted sarcasm would be yes; in a way. Now shoo away little one the adults are talking.

 

Usually the problems are from people who have the fault finding skills of crying "the wifi is down" and had the ONT put in a stupid place because of where they wanted a phone, and then find the wifi doesnt reach the whole house, the new 5GHz one gives them less bars than the old 2.4GHz one and they want vodafone to pay to fix it because it was all fine when they were on copper.





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  #2490319 24-May-2020 00:30
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cyril7:

 

Easy on there, I am a Boomer, was also around when the first internet connections came to our shores, built some of the early TCP/IP networks, not much changed except the scale compared to today.

 

Just remember, those that proceed you, built what you now build on!

 

Thanks for your time

 

Cyril

 

 

I'm not a boomer, but I'm probably older than you think I am - Gen X. I said its "mostly boomers" and that is what I have seen. Certainly not all - fully agree with that.


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  #2490321 24-May-2020 00:37
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nzkc:
I'm not a boomer, but I'm probably older than you think I am - Gen X. I said its "mostly boomers" and that is what I have seen. Certainly not all - fully agree with that.

Gen Z here, but I get what you were trying to say before, especially since older people don’t have as much experience with technology etc. as we do and they might be afraid of something going wrong.

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