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Master Geek

#2657511 16-Feb-2021 13:56

Hi,

I've been following Starlink for ages, and signed up on 9th Feb too - for Haruru in Bay of Islands, unfortunately a bit outside of the fibre zone that's just been installed :-/

On Reddit, it seems users are now down to 37° North in the USA. Though still looking a bit patchy on https://satellitemap.space/

37° South would make Starlink from Auckland southwards currently. https://osm4wiki.toolforge.org/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki-osm.pl?project=en&article=37th_parallel_south

I'll be needing 35° South, so a while to go. My confirmation email says mid-to-late 2021, though that seemed pretty generic for everyone.

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#2657959 16-Feb-2021 22:36

I see they successfully launched another lot today, pretty impressive going pity they lost the 1st stage booster this time around.

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#2657968 16-Feb-2021 22:49

Was just out for a bit trying my luck to see them like the ones on Feb4. But these seemed to be more a E/W positioning rather than N/S that we could rotate in to

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#2659077 18-Feb-2021 15:24

Got a client with a hanger at Rangiora Airfield. Has a nice gaming PC setup with controllers and an ultrawide screen for playing Flight sim 2020.

Yesterday the game attempted to update and deleted itself completely so today he's re-downloading the 150 odd GB of data required to play it - Slow and expensive on his Rural broadband connection with a 120GB monthly cap.

Unfortunately there is no fibre and no plan for fibre - None of the Wireless providers over coverage there due to Poplars etc so this could be a game changer.

I suggested he puts it into his hanger and put an AP on the roof and have the neighbours chip in to use it as they're lighter users that it would just make it easier for tablets and phones for flight planning etc.

He's already spend a fair bit of money getting a directional antenna installed on the roof so to pay $500 bucks for the gear when its going to blow his current options out of the water is no big thing at all.

I hope he does order it so he can be a guinea pig for me to see how it goes for other clients and might also remove my number one requirement ("Must have fibre") when we sell up and move in 2 or 3 years.

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#2659083 18-Feb-2021 15:28

mobiusnz:
Got a client with a hanger at Rangiora Airfield. Has a nice gaming PC setup with controllers and an ultrawide screen for playing Flight sim 2020.

Yesterday the game attempted to update and deleted itself completely so today he's re-downloading the 150 odd GB of data required to play it - Slow and expensive on his Rural broadband connection with a 120GB monthly cap.

Unfortunately there is no fibre and no plan for fibre - None of the Wireless providers over coverage there due to Poplars etc so this could be a game changer.

I suggested he puts it into his hanger and put an AP on the roof and have the neighbours chip in to use it as they're lighter users that it would just make it easier for tablets and phones for flight planning etc.

He's already spend a fair bit of money getting a directional antenna installed on the roof so to pay $500 bucks for the gear when its going to blow his current options out of the water is no big thing at all.

I hope he does order it so he can be a guinea pig for me to see how it goes for other clients and might also remove my number one requirement ("Must have fibre") when we sell up and move in 2 or 3 years.

Can you put the game on a USB stick for him?

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#2659125 18-Feb-2021 17:23

Kiwifruta:

Can you put the game on a USB stick for him?

Its a "Microsoft Store" purchase he made so not really.

The "Game" is only 1.5GB which I left him downloading. Then on the first run it downloads all of the map data, satellite images, buildings etc which is the big download.

I suggested he just take the box home and plug it into his home PC monitor etc as he has Fibre there. Otherwise it was going to take over 24 hours probably at the speeds he gets ignoring the cost for over usage of the 4G.

He sounded like he was going to do that but he might have just decided to be lazy, wait and pay the bill.

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#2659185 18-Feb-2021 21:14

Latest patch is 23GB then another 5GB or so for the update from the marketplace (If he's not done the Japan and US they are circa 7 or so each from memory).

So yeah do it at home on Fibre for sure...

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#2659186 18-Feb-2021 21:32

Hearing reports in some of the US groups, that speeds are starting to dip.

Bit of a reminder of the realitity that it is a shared space...

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#2659187 18-Feb-2021 21:39

hio77: Hearing reports in some of the US groups, that speeds are starting to dip.

Bit of a reminder of the realitity that it is a shared space...

its also in beta so they don't have as whole heap of satellites up yet. i would say its just temporary.

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#2659284 18-Feb-2021 22:22

Jase2985:
hio77: Hearing reports in some of the US groups, that speeds are starting to dip.

Bit of a reminder of the realitity that it is a shared space...

its also in beta so they don't have as whole heap of satellites up yet. i would say its just temporary.

Point is more it's not a wisp destroyer, or a chorus destroyer. It's a competing product

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#2659421 19-Feb-2021 09:25

Just received, Wellington-area:

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#2659499 19-Feb-2021 10:12

freitasm:

Just received, Wellington-area:

I also got that email, I'm in Oamaru.

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Ultimate Geek

#2659512 19-Feb-2021 10:51

I got the same one, location I registered is Greymouth. I suspect they have sent it to all NZ based people who expressed interest.

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#2659530 19-Feb-2021 11:28

hio77:

Point is more it's not a wisp destroyer, or a chorus destroyer. It's a competing product

After reading the below, I don't think Chorus will be losing too much sleep

https://www.govtech.com/network/Experts-Closing-the-Digital-Divide-Will-Take-More-than-Satellites.html

"SpaceX’s initial application to the Federal Communications Commission stated that each Starlink satellite would have the capacity for 17 to 23 Gbps, or an average of 20 Gbps. With Starlink's plan for 12,000 satellites, the total capacity would be 240,000 Gbps based on the average.

On the surface, that number looks like a lot of Internet, Russo said. However, if one considers that LEO satellites are always moving, and that America makes up two percent of Earth’s surface, only 240 satellites, or 4,800 Gbps, would be available to the United States at a given time.

“Any small city would obliterate that [Internet capacity],” Russo said.

Carl Russo, CEO of telecommunications company Calix,

The US is 37 times larger than NZ so on a pro rata basis NZ's capacity would be 130Gbps, that's 2600 50Mbs connections...

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#2659536 19-Feb-2021 11:47

Plus somebody has performed some revenue projections on Starlink based on their filings etc.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/02/14/elon-musk-predicted-starlink-would-generate-30-bil/

Here they assume overscribing 3:1 which might make sense except possibly in the evenings when everybody is watching streaming TV.

Their conclusions are it's hard to see how they could generate 30 billion in revenue.

5G is also a strong competitor.

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