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Uber Geek


  #183433 11-Dec-2008 00:28
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chaoscreater: umm, i don't care about the best upload speed......i just want good download speed.....and wot's "fls upload"?

Upload speed influences download speed. In general 128k upload limits you to 4000kb/s. This is because your computer has to say 'okay ive got that bit send the next one', and if it cant do that fast enough then download speed is limited.
fls upload = full line speed upload.
chaoscreater:Ya i'm a very large downloader but my question isn't about whether i should stay with Go Large or upgrade to ADSL2, i'm asking what i can do to improve the download speed, such as turning interleaving off, or maybe do some registry tweaks or something.....coz i've done those before.

Interleaving off as mentioned isnt possible on go large and wont help your speeds, only your ping.
Registry tweaks wont do much. TCP Optimizer is the only tweak and that isnt going to affect telecoms shaping of your plan.
chaoscreater: BTW i don't plan on going with ADSL2, it's too expensive for me. I'm happy with Go Large and ya i know of the traffic shaping thing but is there a way to make ur download speed better? Like maybe installing a certain thing in ur house or something? ANYTHING??

You could change to the 10gb plan, your speeds would increase heaps and your price remains the same.
Anarkist:There is no way you can escape or get around the shaping short of changing plans, as it's done within the ISPs network (not on your equipment).

Right on the money yourself.
chaoscreater: well not really, there're some tools that actually bosted my internet such as SpeedConnect Internet Accelerator 7.5, it really boosted quite a bit and even tweaking some registry settings helped.

TCP Optimizer is pretty much the only tweak that will speed things up pretty much. Internet accelerators simply compress images etc, they CANNOT increase raw download speeds of files. Accelerators are a waste of time.
honem:Hmmm I wonder if changing the port Bit torrent uses could fool the traffic shaping ? Nuhhh i don't think so - they people you are downloading from will not of changed the port they are uploading through. Telecom could still flag that incoming data as P2P traffic and shape it accordingly.

Nope, its not to do with ports. Their shaping equipment will read the headers and patterns of all packets and be able to identify them. They can even detect torrent traffic within an encrypted VPN tunnel due to how the protocol works with masses of connections and small chunks of data.

Bottom line is you will not speed upyour internet without changing our plan or ISP.


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Master Geek

  #183435 11-Dec-2008 01:20
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thx eXDee, that's a good explanation, guess i'll just haf to stay with Go Large i suppose...


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Uber Geek


  #183441 11-Dec-2008 07:05
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@chaoscreater: The Internet in NZ (and most other places) can be summed up thus: Fast, Good, Cheap. Pick Any Two.

They can even detect torrent traffic within an encrypted VPN tunnel due to how the protocol works with masses of connections and small chunks of data.

Is that really the case? I thought IPSEC padded packet lengths to protect against exactly this sort of thing? Or is my fast-fading knowledge of IPSEC letting me down again? :)

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Ultimate Geek

  #183442 11-Dec-2008 07:35
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The Internet in NZ can be summed up thus: Fast, Good, Cheap. Pick Any Two.

I like that ..... a very apt description of NZ broadband, although could be better said as
Fast, Reliable, Cheap. Pick Any Two.

.....c'mon sucker lick my battery........
binary solo...0000110000110000111...

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Master Geek


  #183467 11-Dec-2008 09:57
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Also, as a thought on the side of this issue I wonder how uTP will affect GoLarge P2P throughput rates.

I haven't had the time to test it myself however as the majority of traffic shaping is based on TCP based packet inspection/port shaping and not so much on UDP traffic it could be (at least in theory) beneficial for GoLarge users to take advantage of uTP before any specific action is taken against it (if it hasn't been already).

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Master Geek

  #183565 11-Dec-2008 16:41
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When I was on GoLarge, 90% of the time torrents went at 5kbps or less, highest it went to was 30kbps.

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