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boosacnoodle
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  #3193098 10-Feb-2024 07:48
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cddt: There is a subset of landlords who wouldn't provide electricity connections or water connections if they didn't have to. The problem is that there isn't any requirement for landlords to provide infrastructure for telecommunications.

 

The nuclear option is to contact your local council and find out if their District Plan requires the provision of telco services. If it does, get some further details on that. They may enforce the developer to install it (at their cost). You may then also have remedies through the Tenancy Tribunal too.


 
 
 

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  #3193682 10-Feb-2024 21:43
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nztim:

 

but $1400 is about what the Government funded per address for the initial rollout. 

 

 

I was of the understanding Chorus invested a large amount of money into a fund to spend on lead-in connections for existing dwellings and business locations as a deal sweetener for the government when chorus borrowed the money to build the UFB network.   

 

Chorus has been refilling that fund since once they worked out that they make more profit on fiber than copper so as to get as many households converted as possible.  

 

Originally there were media stories that did say the fund had a finite amount of money for free installations at the time. But it only covered existing dwellings/business locations. 





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  #3193683 10-Feb-2024 21:47
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Wheelbarrow01:

 

however Chorus cannot compel the developer or owner to do so. 

 

 

But the local district plan might - check the details on subdivisions. Some city councils require telecommunications services to be available at the boundary of each subdivision lot or property parcel (maybe not per dwelling).   

 

edit: well done boosacnoodle for already mentioning this. Some city councils will accept wireless internet as a solution. 





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  #3194208 12-Feb-2024 10:10
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nztim:

 

That is not really an acceptable answer, if in-fill build is required, that is not the tenant's problem, that is the landlords, he/she was the one who decided to build 4 units on one address.

 

 

Oh I agree totally, the landlord should have made sure the developer included the fibre connection to the new houses. And since they didn't they should definitely pay to have the work done now, otherwise they may well have trouble renting the houses out if people know in advance that there's no fibre.

 

OP: did you know that there was no fibre before you moved in? I moved house recently, to a rental, and checking that the house had fibre was one of the first things on my checklist.


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  #3194347 12-Feb-2024 14:39
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@gunpowder: any update yet?


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  #3194453 13-Feb-2024 01:16
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> did you know that there was no fibre before you moved in? I moved house recently, to a rental, and checking that the house had fibre was one of the first things on my checklist.

 

Yep - but i was promised everything gonna be easy, when the houses will be registered. ) it turned out not to be a fingersnap.

 

> any update yet?
not yet, but i am aiming to talk )


  #3194454 13-Feb-2024 05:18
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gunpowder:

 

Yep - but i was promised everything gonna be easy, when the houses will be registered. ) it turned out not to be a fingersnap.

 

 

by who?




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  #3194460 13-Feb-2024 06:51
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gunpowder:

 

> did you know that there was no fibre before you moved in? I moved house recently, to a rental, and checking that the house had fibre was one of the first things on my checklist.

 

Yep - but i was promised everything gonna be easy, when the houses will be registered. ) it turned out not to be a fingersnap.

 

 

If this was promised to you by whoever let the property to you, particularly if it was something you asked about before signing up, then you may have a good case to both push the landlord to install or take it to the tenancy tribunal. Citizens Advice Bureau would probably be able to advise you further.


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  #3194468 13-Feb-2024 07:35
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If there’s decent cellular coverage and you only need enough speed for web, home entertainment streaming and wfh Remote Desktop etc won’t wireless broadband suffice?

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  #3194495 13-Feb-2024 08:39
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johno1234: If there’s decent cellular coverage and you only need enough speed for web, home entertainment streaming and wfh Remote Desktop etc won’t wireless broadband suffice?

 

This lets the Landlords win, don't go there.





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  #3194767 13-Feb-2024 16:17
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What do you mean by “register” the houses.
Did they mean code compliance for each dwelling or is there a plan for seperate unit titles for the allotment that’s been subdivided ?


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  #3194770 13-Feb-2024 16:21
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It amazes me with how much the govt has put into the fiber network they do not mandate a connection inside any tenantable property for it to legally be allowed to rent out like they do with running water, a sewer or septic system and having power and an oven.





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  #3194772 13-Feb-2024 16:22
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nztim:

 

johno1234: If there’s decent cellular coverage and you only need enough speed for web, home entertainment streaming and wfh Remote Desktop etc won’t wireless broadband suffice?

 

This lets the Landlords win, don't go there.

 

 

Did the landlord promise fibre? Fibre broadband not a legal requirement for a rental is it? If no and no then it's not about beating the landlord. It's about getting Gunpowder online for little or no cost.

 

 


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  #3194773 13-Feb-2024 16:23
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richms:

 

It amazes me with how much the govt has put into the fiber network they do not mandate a connection inside any tenantable property for it to legally be allowed to rent out like they do with running water, a sewer or septic system and having power and an oven.

 

 

Everybody needs running water, a sewer or septic system and having power and an oven. Not everybody needs fibre based broadband.


  #3194811 13-Feb-2024 19:04
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johno1234:

 

richms:

 

It amazes me with how much the govt has put into the fiber network they do not mandate a connection inside any tenantable property for it to legally be allowed to rent out like they do with running water, a sewer or septic system and having power and an oven.

 

 

Everybody needs running water, a sewer or septic system and having power and an oven. Not everybody needs fibre based broadband.

 

 

search digital divide in New Zealand.

 

Everyone should have the opportunity to be able to connect to fibre broadband.

 

xDSL doesnt cut it these days, wireless broadband is too variable and satellite is to expensive


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