Chorus upgrading fibre plans from June 2025

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#3342623 13-Feb-2025 20:30

wellygary:

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I wonder how much revenue loss this might cause for RSPs..

as I can see a lot of people downgrading from 300/100. Many people view the 50/10 plan as only suitable for light users but 100/20 really is suitable for many if not most users.

It depends on how they are structuring their pricing,

Yes Customers moving from 300/100 down to 100/20 is a reduction in gross income,

but the wholesale price they pay Chorus for 300 will be higher than the new 100 plan,

So if their margin on the 100/20 is higher than 300/100 they might actually make more money

Totally. Especially when Spark’s plan costs a whole $21 more than One’s. That’s a truckload more margin!

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#3342680 13-Feb-2025 22:07

nzkc:

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While installation is free, it involves working with both Chorus and Village management to get the ONT installed.

IMO the "village management" are really to blame with your scenario (which I see your point on completely). They should be stepping up and working with Chorus to get the ONTs all installed throughout the village dwellings. Its just laziness on their part. And I would argue, short sighted. As the "younger generations" eventually start filtering into these services they'll be looking at things like internet connectivity (I certainly will).

There are a multitude of retirement villages that have previously or are currently working with Chorus and other LFCs to have fibre installed in their apartments, villas, townhouses etc. In such cases, the LFC and village operators work together to design how the network can be installed, and the entire village is reticulated in a managed programme of work - up to and including the ONT installations, ready for residents to connect to.

It's also worth noting that a number of retailers offer a voice-only service over fibre, so people in retirement living facilities do not have to order a broadband service they might not have a use for - they can simply migrate their old copper phone service over to fibre voice. This is particularly important now that the copper withdrawal programme is a mere 14 months away from being completed nationwide*.

*in areas where fibre is available.

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#3342782 14-Feb-2025 09:33

So does this mean if I am on 882/495Mbps with 2Degrees I will be short changed this year as the "slower" plans get a free speed bump?

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#3342786 14-Feb-2025 09:38

heavenlywild:

So does this mean if I am on 882/495Mbps with 2Degrees I will be short changed this year as the "slower" plans get a free speed bump?

Gpon has its limitations. If you don’t need the upload speed, you can always downgrade and save some $$$$

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#3344543 19-Feb-2025 17:12

And just to highlight the "we don't know how lucky we are" aspect of this.....

Over in Oz consumer groups are lobbying for 50/17 to be made the NBN minimum (Which is currently 25/10)

But there's no indication yet from the NBN companies whether they are interested in doing this...

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/internet/bye-bye-nbn-25-accan-urges-nbn-co-to-ditch-25mbps-services-make-50mbps-the-new-minimum

everettpsycho

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#3344648 19-Feb-2025 22:06

How did we end up back on 50mb plans? It was only a few years back they ubiquitously upgraded everyone's connections to 300/100 and that was pretty much the base tier plan for all retailers with a couple retaining the old 30mb plans. Now they've upgraded the entry level 50 to 100 which is almost back to where we were 5 years ago.

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#3344658 19-Feb-2025 22:28

everettpsycho:

How did we end up back on 50mb plans? It was only a few years back they ubiquitously upgraded everyone's connections to 300/100 and that was pretty much the base tier plan for all retailers with a couple retaining the old 30mb plans. Now they've upgraded the entry level 50 to 100 which is almost back to where we were 5 years ago.

They introduced a poverty plan for providers who sell it really cheap.

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#3344659 19-Feb-2025 22:28

The old 30/10 plan became 50/10, the old 100/20 plan became 300/100.

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#3344660 19-Feb-2025 22:29

everettpsycho:

How did we end up back on 50mb plans?

Because of all the CPI adjustments.

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#3354620 17-Mar-2025 15:31

robjg63:

Yep - I have heard people complain that their fibre is 'useless/bad'.

Its surprising to me how many people have no understanding of how any of this works.

If their laptop/TV/phone doesnt get a fast relaible connection them they just blame the product.

Wifi router location and age are nearly always to blame. Routers nearly all seem to cook themselves after 4 years or so and just start going strange.

Many non technical people call their internet connection "the wifi". 4G/5G cellular is also "the wifi".

I'd bet a big percentage of problems is not from the quality of the internet connection or router but the inherent instability of 5GHz wifi through walls. Apparently some routers by default can tell the devices to treat the 2.4GHz and 5GHz wifi as one wifi connection, leading to intermittent dropouts when they connect to the 5GHz. It may be best to set the router to keep the two frequencies as separate networks.

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#3366929 23-Apr-2025 21:37

Around in circles a bit isn't it? We used to have 100 Mbps for about the $70 mark. Now we're going back to 100 Mbps for probably around the same price... just, well, again.

We recently just downgraded to 50 Mbps, because the LAN cable in use is only 100 Mbps from the ONT (couldn't be bothered putting another one in), and we'd be lucky to hit 30 Mbps even when streaming Netflix and being distracted with Youtube on the phones.

So this is nice to eventually hear. Basically we'll get our old $70, 100 Mbps plan back before it went to 300.

I'd say if the margin is any less than the Fibre 300, they'll just do what power companies did once heat-pumps took off, up the price so they're at least back to where they started before the change. That's if too many move down to 100 Mbps.

At least until someone uploads a video and the asymmetric speeds kick off a TCP/ACK downstream reduction so they think 100 Mbps is poor. But that's easy enough to mitigate for Geekzone users.

I don't care if an OS needs to download a little longer while I go do something else every once and a while. Not if it pays for the data on the mobile.

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#3366931 23-Apr-2025 21:45

Looking forward to this speed upgrade happening 🙂

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#3367112 24-Apr-2025 13:03

Quic have announced theirs recently: https://www.quic.nz/big-fibre-boost-speed-increases/

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