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corksta: You really can't complain when you read an article like this:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/2851526/Pigeon-post-faster-than-internet
NonprayingMantis: does it state the size fo the file transferred? no.
For all we know there was 20 x 4GB micro-SD cards strapped to the pigeons legs.
Anyway, was it an African Pigeon or a European Pigeon?
It's all a question of weight ratios... :D
corksta: I know that, the point is that as much as people complain and moan it's easy to forget there are many other countries out there where it is much worse, as that example shows and as others have mentioned above. So the OP's thread title is a bit harsh, but that's a moot point anyway seeing as he's been banned.
mattbush: I actually believe telecom are responsible for the better broadband in NZ over the last couple of years following their decision to invest heavily in infrastructure. Also their new CEO has helped. On the otherhand, telstraclear still seem to be grossly lacking in new investment and just talk about it.
Whilst their cable is still superior(in places that can access it), Telecom's new infrastructure is fast catching up.
PenultimateHop:I wasn't sure about that as it says "a data card s". I wonder if it means data cards or a single data card.NonprayingMantis: does it state the size fo the file transferred? no.
For all we know there was 20 x 4GB micro-SD cards strapped to the pigeons legs.
Anyway, was it an African Pigeon or a European Pigeon?
It's all a question of weight ratios... :D
Well, it does specify a single data card.
Let's say that it is a single 4GB micro-SD card, with a 4GB file on it. We'll be optimistic and compare it to a perfect conditions ADSL2plus G.992.5 circuit where we have a 1Mbps IP-throughput upstream capability.it;s also not clear aboutthe time
4GB Data card, at 2h6m57s yields 4.3Mbit/sec transfer rate.
4GB over ADSL2plus at 1Mbps yields a 546.13 minute transfer time, which is 9 hours and 6 minutes.
Telkom's 4% achievement of data in 2h6m57s yields about 172Kbps in throughput.
Screeb:corksta: I know that, the point is that as much as people complain and moan it's easy to forget there are many other countries out there where it is much worse, as that example shows and as others have mentioned above. So the OP's thread title is a bit harsh, but that's a moot point anyway seeing as he's been banned.
That's like saying "you can't complain about New Zealand's life expectancy being 50 years* when there are many other countries that are much lower, like Swaziland".
*Yes I know it's not actually 50, or low by any standard.
NonprayingMantis:
Anyway, was it an African Pigeon or a European Pigeon?
macuser:
I think the thing is, some of us are not comparing to countries with similar population, GDP and geography. All of us understand the idea of economies of scale. South Korea has 43 million more people than New Zealand and is about 4/10ths the size...
Just saying...
NonprayingMantis: I wasn't sure about that as it says "a data card s". I wonder if it means data cards or a single data card.
NonprayingMantis: it;s also not clear aboutthe time
Local news agency SAPA reported the 11-month-old pigeon, Winston,
took one hour and eight minutes to fly the 80km from Unlimited IT's
offices near Pietermaritzburg to the coastal city of Durban with a data
card s strapped to his leg.
Including downloading, the transfer took two hours, six minutes and 57 seconds -
are we supposed to beleive that although the pigeon flew the route in 1h 8m, it took almost another entire hour just to plug in the data card and transfer the file?
NonprayingMantis: If it was a 4GB card, then 4% of 4GB is approx 160 MB. 160MB in ~2hours is approx 1.4MB per minute, or 23kB/s. Pretty slow, but then you can get much larger data cards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card
If the card was 32GB would make the speed 184kB/s which is pretty decent transfer rate IMO.
Other types of memory card can come in even bigger capacity than 32GB - I've seen a 64GB SDXC card launching very soon http://www.toshiba.com/taec/news/press_releases/2009/memy_09_572.jsp,
and heard of (but not sure if they are close to being released) a 1TB (yes Terabyte) SD card.
ETA: I found another article where they claim it was a 4GB card
http://www.henriska.com/blog/?p=615
Kyanar: Here's the original source: http://pigeonrace2009.co.za/pigeon-race-2009
According to a couple of South Africans I work with, beating Telkom is a bit like beating a grandmother in a walking frame.
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