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  #257686 22-Sep-2009 23:35
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scottjames84:
If Telecom would give better prices with better plans, perhaps uncapped transfer then New Zealand could move up in the world and not get stuck in the stone age.


I suspect you've been too busy reading the xnet outage notification page (na jokes) to have spotted something called Telecom BIG TIME

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scottjames84: After being away from New Zealand and experiencing the finer things in life technologically speaking I have to say New Zealanders are getting jipped in terms of price and quality of broadband.


I use the internet for alot of things; youtube, streaming music, downloading information, voIP, ect 
My average bill on Xnet is currently about $130 a month with out using the internet for its full potential.


New Zealanders cannot use broadband in its current state for its full potential with out spending hundreds of $$ on bandwidth.'


If Telecom would give better prices with better plans, perhaps uncapped transfer then New Zealand could move up in the world and not get stuck in the stone age.

I'm not quite sure where you're not able to use the Internet to it's full potential given the list you provided. 

However I'm not so sure that you're paying anything more than many people in other parts of the world do (yes I realise there are exceptions - we've discussed this before and there are reasons for those exceptions!).  I pay a similar amount for my Internet connection in Singapore as you - yet it performs worse than my Australian and NZ DSL connections ever did, despite having a much higher claimed peak rate.

 
 
 
 


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MasterNibot: Looking at trace routes from offshore you can clearly see where it enters NZ:
TraceRoute to 121.72.208.154 [frank.got-game.org]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1     8      10    20        206.123.69.141 -
2     15    10    6          206.123.64.82 -
3     10    10    13        216.52.189.9 border4.te4-4.colo4dallas-5.ext1.dal.pnap.net
4      9     12    13        216.52.191.34 core3.tge5-1-bbnet1.ext1.dal.pnap.net
5      9     13     6         66.79.145.97 core3.ext1.dal.inappnet-xx.cr1.dal005.internap.net
6     41    40     38       66.79.147.250 cr1.lax009.inappnet.cr1.dal005.internap.net
7     98    203   204     206.223.123.11 gi1--1.wil04.net.reach.com
8     42    38    38        202.84.251.233 i-0-0-0.wil-core02.bi.reach.com
9     164  163  163      202.84.219.114 i-2-2-0.hptw-core01.bx.reach.com
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I missed this post earlier.  That delay you clearly see is due to the approximate 12000km distance that the light in the fibre has to cover.

The only way to fix that problem is shift NZ closer to the USA.

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  #257695 23-Sep-2009 06:17
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uber stepping in...

ahhhh....the great 'NZ internet sucks' debate....it never gets old...

oh...actually, it has.
yawn.
moving on.


that said, can we lock this thread...it was technically shut down in the first couple posts by the mods, is now just becoming a moanfest.




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