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  Reply # 331729 19-May-2010 08:09
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itxtme: There is traffic shaping to stop this from happening..

So I take it from your answer that there is no ID verification?

There are other illegal things you can do online that would make this type of untraceable access attractive for criminals, I'd have thought.

nothing which you couldn't do with a prepaid mobile broabdnad connection I would think.  they require no proof of identity or similar either.

True, and you can use TOR, VPNs and anonymous proxies as well, but it seems silly to open up another option, especially when it's free and easily available to anyone with little technical knowledge.

EDIT: Interestingly there was a story recently about Germany where having an open wi-fi network is illegal and there is legislation in the UK to do the same:

This week Germany's highest criminal Court ruled that Wi-Fi owners are liable for abuse by a third party in cases where they fail to password-protect their internet connections.


The UK's Digital Economy Bill makes owners of publicly accessible Wi-Fi hotspots liable for piracy committed - the public connection provider is also required to maintain records, going back 12 months, of the communication taken place on the network.

Good thing the Octagon WiFi has a registration process which likely captures MAC address. The performance is a bit up and down.  Suppose this is due to the fact it's just a public hotspot though, if I want a fatter pipe with better latency I use my home broadband.  I've found the service great for doing a bit of browsing if I happen through the octagon at lunch.  The terms and conditions look fairly thorough.  Theres only so much security providers can put on public hotspots though, there does seem to be layer 2 isolation, firewall, and traffic shaping blocking ports etc,  I did a few checks form my ultraportable.  Seems worthwhile; I'd use it again.  Good ol Dunedin!!  Doesn't look like the DCC are the ISP btw if you check the IP address ownership and t & c's?  Good on the council for sparking off this service though, a few others I do business with in the local ICT environment are also keen to see it kept alive.  Not often you find this service, and I suppose there will always be the paranoid naysayers and idiots who ruin it for other legitimate users.


I agree it's a good service, I was just a little concerned they may have not thought through the implications.  If they leave it open for abuse, for sure someone will take advantage and ruin it for everyone.  Other cities may be looking at Dunedin to see how it goes so it would be a shame if it wasn't successful.

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  Reply # 332695 20-May-2010 23:22
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Was the contract with unifone just for installation, or are they providing everything?

I have unifone at my flat and would prefer dial up.

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