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Topic # 79796 22-Mar-2011 17:04
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Does anyone remember this thread?

Seems there's been some movement in the Hayai deployment it seems.  Check out the latest pricing plan (warning: PDF file).

There's some great technical detail about how the network'll go together in this thread from the Indian Broadband forum.

Just a FYI for those that, like me, were interested in the original thread (that I think's nearly a year old now?)



 

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  Reply # 450838 22-Mar-2011 17:23
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The pricing model is very progressive, following what some of the more innovative ISP's are doing overseas (prepaid, postpaid, free offpeak etc).

The details in that thread about backhaul and transit are nothing amazing, those are pretty much all the standard companies any ISP or hosting provider could and probably would choose to use in those regions. Vocus and Oddessy (Orcon's transit spinoff) are not suprising choices for international transit either.

The real questions marks (imo) are still around the FTTH part, my home is in suburban Auckland.. how is it going to get fed with fibre?

Given UFB fibre rollout in the next few years, I just can't see (Hayai) or their partner provider (lets assume Vector for Auckland, assuming Chorus2 wins LFC for Auckland) laying fibre in competition in to the LFC rollout.

If Hayai are going to use UFB fibre once it's down, it's going to be competing (with basically the same product) with every other ISP who will be offering plans on essentially the same wholesale service... not much to get excited about other than just a new ISP in town?

It could be interesting if Hayai + partner can roll out fibre to the home faster or much earlier than the UFB, that's the only way it would be worthwhile.


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  Reply # 452528 27-Mar-2011 19:48
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This is interesting. How on earth are they going to manage last mile rollouts though?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 452586 27-Mar-2011 22:18
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I suspect initially they will have access to the same fiber customers as WxC does, as well as any other premises that Velocity fiber runs past?

I can't see them providing the services for the numbers they have on their price list without making use of some GPON service though as last mile access providers simply charge way more per dedicated tail anywhere else in the country, and will most likely still do so even after the governments UFB scheme kicks off as it's a premium service.

However they do go about it though I'm sure it will help bring the price paid for fiber down a fair bit, if it ever gets going.

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  Reply # 454347 1-Apr-2011 20:19
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Anyone know what 'FUP' on that pricing PDF means?

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  Reply # 454673 2-Apr-2011 23:22
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Fair usage policy for the flat rate plans.  It's sensible given how excessively some people will leech.

Probably get a few warnings for regularly exceeding the FUP amount and then likely shaped more aggressively or put in a pool with the other extreme leechers.

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  Reply # 454717 3-Apr-2011 08:55
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Ah right. Fairly generous 'limits' then! Nice to see also that the limits are per direction, so a 250GB limit gives you 250 down AND 250 up!!

The only way that these plans could be better is if there is unrated, gigabit speeds between Hayai customers!! Now THAT would be awesome!!

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  Reply # 454770 3-Apr-2011 12:08
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Just found the following in this post which answers my own question :)

Considering that we would be highly interested in bringing back the NZ-traffic for free/cheap model, there's also no reason that as more people joined our network and/or networks with whom we directly peer, speeds would go up and costs would come down.

Sounds like umetered / cheap national traffic to me, at least between Hayai customers!  Not sure about speeds, but there's no technical reason why it couldn't be gigabit.


Also found this FAQ.  It's for the Indian side of the company, but I believe they want to have the same conditions here:
http://broadbandforum.in/hayai-broadband/56683-hayai-broadband-faqs/#post371423

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  Reply # 454861 3-Apr-2011 18:25
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Haha the guy actually is moving forward with it. Funnily enough it looks like the crazy idea of installing their own fibre looks to be abandoned.





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  Reply # 454893 3-Apr-2011 19:59
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muppet: Does anyone remember this thread?

Seems there's been some movement in the Hayai deployment it seems.  Check out the latest pricing plan (warning: PDF file).

There's some great technical detail about how the network'll go together in this thread from the Indian Broadband forum.

Just a FYI for those that, like me, were interested in the original thread (that I think's nearly a year old now?)


Bahaha!  Comedy gold!

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  Reply # 454894 3-Apr-2011 20:00
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I've not noticed any cable roll-out around Nawton....

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  Reply # 454949 4-Apr-2011 00:56
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Sounds like some sort of scum it does not look right for me. And have a funny feeling about it all




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  Reply # 466034 6-May-2011 08:28
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Please note, on request of an Indian blog we have unlocked the original discussion with more comments and a link to a post telling more things...

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