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  Reply # 514334 31-Aug-2011 11:22
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jonherries: Hope this isn't too off-topic:

I noticed in Don's post that Internode sell airport extremes as routers when kitting out FTTH. How does this work? I would have assumed that you would still need a modem?

They don't mention that on the site, and I didn't think there was a modem built into the Airport Extreme...

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Totally OT, but the NBN is delivered as a layer 2 Ethernet port on the ONT.  There is no 'modem' at all.

Per:  http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/?action=plan_calculator&id=9&s=16&re=0&p=21514

They offer a bunch of hardware.  I simply clicked a button to choose 'something' so I could demonstrate the features of the site.

If you have more questions I suggest asking here:  http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/68






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  Reply # 514345 31-Aug-2011 11:31
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A router is still required for a NBN install in Aussie and a UFB install in NZ. The ONT provides 4 ethernet ports (for different service providers and functions) however it does not function as a router, it simply provides an ethernet connection.


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geekwannabe: 

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Sorry I saved it as an image and its huge.

Landline w limited national calling (10+ per month, 15-30 mins, anytime), same to 1 Telecom mobile number. Mobile calls the LL (10+ per month, 15- 30 mins, anytime), use 100mb per month.

40GB 5mbs up, don't know down, gaming don't know, slow down if over.

In all cases chose I don't know as cost options.

The results for the extra 20GB broadband on these results said:

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Wow, I'll pass that on and we'll see what is going on there. Thanks for the info. 




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  Reply # 515224 1-Sep-2011 17:46
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I think a good thing to include on it would be the contention ratio, as that has a big factor in terms of the performance of the ISP.

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  Reply # 515243 1-Sep-2011 18:13
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mattwnz: I think a good thing to include on it would be the contention ratio, as that has a big factor in terms of the performance of the ISP.


Except that apart from the fact there are multiple places where a 'contention ratio' MIGHT exist within any given ISP network - there's no ISP that will declare their contention ratio (if they even have one) as it's commercially sensitive info.

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  Reply # 515284 1-Sep-2011 19:22
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Talkiet: there's no ISP that will declare their contention ratio (if they even have one) as it's commercially sensitive info.


Actually it's a very poor measure as well. 

We might argue that Telecom can run higher contention because it's got a bigger user base.  But it also might have more 'grandma users' who have a dsl connection, but make very little use of it but just choose Telecom because they always have.

A business ISP might provide better redundancy, more helpdesk staff, etc - but have a user base that uses very little capacity, but want great burst speeds, so the ISP focuses on having those customers who don't saturate their links.

SlingShot, I would suspect have more capacity than other ISPs, but they also have far more 'leacher' type customers, so they simply can't contend the backhaul.

So if were were to say:

T - 1:250
BISP - 1:500
SS - 1:100

Who is the best provider?   Who should you choose?

Also, as Neil is eluding to, where do you measure contention?  In the case of Telecom, which covers the whole country, they're going to have different results in different places.  In my suburb, TelstraClear claim to have 70% of the market, so we'd expect that Telecom should have great performance but also have a different contention ratio, as it's likely that the volume users will be on Telstra or SlingShot?

Really the measure needs to be provided by real time stats like John produces.






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