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ojala

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  #1725339 23-Feb-2017 18:51
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trig42: 

 

UFB was always FTTH by the way, not VDSL. VDSL was available to a lot of people well before UFB, and was available after Chorus (in Chorus areas) finished their FTTN rollout and installed a whole heap of new cabinets.

 

Australia's NBN (a very poor version of NZ's UFB) is using a combination of FTTH, FTTP and FTTN. Poor buggers.

 

 

Yes, now that you mention I recall UFB and FTTH..  There was just too many people being excited about their VDSL over the last couple of years that I had forgotten.

 

AU's NBN will also be HFC..  but such a bad situation there, so much money wasted so far.  But over the last year+ there's also been buildings with VDSL (with HFFB) available and a friend, who has so far gotten nothing but 4G (Sydney suburbs), recently heard that they are getting FTTH soon and he already started digging to cable to route to the street.   So they are catching up with availability at least, slowly for sure..

 

 

 

Wrt the queues and that.  As we don't have any national project, it's all up to the carriers.  You can ask them, you can check on their web site what is available at your address but that's it.  You can't tell them that you are interested, please deliver when you are here.  If they do something in your area, they'll send you a note, but there's no queue.

 

At the house where we lived until 2012 the only option was ADSL2+.  I asked the carriers but nothing.  They finally ordered fiber, at the owner's cost, for about 10k€.  AFAIK, the carrier never really charged for it.  Initially they offered the standard Internet access up to 100 Mbit/s but when I checked last year, they also had gigabit available now.

 

Everything here is underground in the city suburbs.  And if you go rural enough, they are taking down the poles and switching people's landlines with 4G (or if you're really lucky, fiber).  So compared to NZ, the options to actually physically install the fiber are quite limited (everything is in conduits thought as we've got quite deep freezing depth during the winter).

 

Third of the country has at least 100 Mbit/s fixed broadband in use so I guess things are generally working ok.  And people like me, who are disappointed without a gigabit access :-)


throbb
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  #1725478 24-Feb-2017 07:54
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I like to check the Chorus just to see if the Fibre ETA to my address has changed from May 2018. Almost pissed myself when I saw the following. Says I can get Fibre, yet says Fibre still not due till 2018. So wish this was true, but I know its not, still was nice to have a little bit of excitement in my life.

 


 
 
 
 


invisibleman18
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  #1725622 24-Feb-2017 12:31
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Is there a time limit for consents to remain valid? As I posted earlier, I've had them obtained for 2 months but is there a point where things have to start from scratch again if nothing has progressed? I understand the order gets cancelled if Chorus receive no updates for 45 days after requesting consents, or something like that, so wondered if something similar happens after consents are obtained.


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  #1725634 24-Feb-2017 12:51
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invisibleman18:

 

Do Chorus have deals with certain ISPs where their customers get bumped ahead and certain others keep getting pushed to the back?

 

 

That's very illegal if they did in fact do that, Chorus have to treat all ISPs the same by law.

 

Some places are by their nature harder than others to install, which means a longer wait. Longest I've seen is 22 months. And don't worry, once consent is obtained it's valid for ever.


invisibleman18
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  #1727102 27-Feb-2017 13:47
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Having almost given up, Chorus finally just called me to book a technician visit which is another month away. Given time off work has to be arranged so someone can be home (which to be fair is easier to organise a month in advance than if they'd said tomorrow), how reliable are they at actually turning up on the day? 


AHitman
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  #1727912 28-Feb-2017 20:15
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After dealing with Spark and Chorus since July 2015 the "quote" to install has gone from around $700 to an estimate of $10-15,000.


AHitman
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  #1733317 8-Mar-2017 21:08
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AHitman:

 

After dealing with Spark and Chorus since July 2015 the "quote" to install has gone from around $700 to an estimate of $10-15,000.

 

 

I have now been informed that the install job was closed by Chorus because Spark never got back to them before the deadline...

 

Might be time to change ISP's.


 
 
 
 


invisibleman18
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  #1744396 20-Mar-2017 11:57
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invisibleman18:

 

Having almost given up, Chorus finally just called me to book a technician visit which is another month away. Given time off work has to be arranged so someone can be home (which to be fair is easier to organise a month in advance than if they'd said tomorrow), how reliable are they at actually turning up on the day? 

 

 

Well a week away, and appointment not been changed or cancelled yet. Since I've only organised the morning off work as they told me between 8am and midday, I hope it doesn't turn out like when a plumber (or whatever trades person) says that, then you wait in all day and they eventually turn up at 6pm.

 

Not so much a UFB experience exactly, but landlord told us yesterday that they are thinking of selling in the next 2 or 3 months (ie, once they have owned the place for 2 years so wouldn’t have to pay tax on the sale). Exactly why I almost gave up on Fibre thinking it wasn’t worth persevering with for a rented place. Not sure what would be worse with regards to fibre – to just never have it and not know the difference, or to have the experience of it for a few weeks then have to move somewhere that doesn’t have it/can’t get it.

 

 


invisibleman18
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  #1747742 25-Mar-2017 22:39
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Heh, suppose it had to happen. 2 days before Chorus due, landlord today gave us notice to move as estate agent advised him to sell as vacant possession. May as well cancel the fibre order now. No point me getting it done for someone else's benefit just to have it for a couple of months then end up moving and going back to ADSL again.


alpbetgam
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  #1749877 29-Mar-2017 07:59
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How does hybrid cable work? Is it from the ETP to the ONT or something else?


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  #1750259 29-Mar-2017 16:33
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alpbetgam:

 

How does hybrid cable work? Is it from the ETP to the ONT or something else?

 

 

yes hybrid cable has a pair or 2 of copper in it along side the fibre, this allows the VOIP wiring (from the ONT or RGW) to go back to the ETP and connect into the house wiring where it enters the house. it can also be done to the nearest phone jack if there is one close to the ONT/RGW


ojala

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  #1752976 2-Apr-2017 05:47
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Back to home networking..

 

I've been adding a bit of home automation over the months.  We have now quite a few Philips Hue / Osram Lightify lights around, all connected to the Hue hub.  There's also Nest Protect, Google Home and some Aeotec's Z-Wave sensors.  I used to feed the sensor data to a RaspPi3 with Z-Wave USb stick with Domoticz & co installed but I replaced it with an Intel Atom-based board and home-assistant.io.  All running in Docker next to mosquitto (mqtt), influxdb and grafana.  I have OwnTracks on my phone sending my location data directly to mqtt to be visible on the home-assistant dashboard.

We've been using Tile trackers in our keys since the kickstarter project so installed BTLE USB module to the board as well.  I just received a bunch of RuuviTags (https://ruuvitag.com).  It's a small, "coin sized" BTLE beacon that has temperature, humidity and motion sensors.  It does Physical Web and runs Eddystone (open beacon format from Google) as well, one could use it e.g. for indoor positioning.

I will be adding a few more motion and flood sensors and Samsung's SmartThings hub as well.  I'm not that happy with the Z-Wave USB stick so I want to replace all that into an MQTT stream from the SmartThings.  I also plan to add some smartness to my phone, for example it could notify if I'm in the car if I'm paired to it's BT.  Other thing I'm curious about is Happy Bubbles presence detectors, small devices that transmit BTLE broadcasts to MQTT over WiFi.  That could open some doors for in-house positioning.

 

Perhaps I could ask from Google Home where my keys are..   anyway, I think there's plenty of building blocks now in place for some smartness.  We've already got the kitchen lights automated quite nicely.  We already use Google Home quite a bit for light control, to play music from Spotify, and even to ask what time is it.


I've been trying to minimize "visible IT" over the years, we still have Mac Mini in the living room but I was thinking about removing it and solve a few other requirements (our large photo libraries), so looked into NAS.  Never thought one would still consider one in 2017..   I had a few years old PC laying around so I take FreeNAS Corral a look and did some Proof of Concept tests.  

However I decided that I'd prefer an appliance to avoid maintenance work and bought Qnap's TS-431X.  At 400€ (600nzd) quite a decent 4-bay device with SFP+ for 10GE.  But what comes to the software, I'm already starting to regret for not going for FreeNAS..   I might still decide to return the Qnap.

I ordered a dual-port SPF+ adapter from Ebay and Mikrotik's CSS 326-24G-2S+RM switch so that I can upgrade part of my home network to 10GE.  I've got one small PC that I've been playing OpenStack with and plan to put it with 10GE to the network together with the NAS.  Too bad iMac doesn't have 10GE and my Internet connection is only a gigabit :-)

Talking of which, in the Netherlands in some of the cities there's an ISP (https://www.tweak.nl) building new infrastructure and they offer gigabit with interactive TV for 30€/month (45nzd).  For a year now they've been also selling 10GE for 95€/month (145nzd) (https://tweakers.net/nieuws/109195/tweak-brengt-eerste-10gbit-s-lijnen-naar-consumenten-voor-95-euro-per-maand.html).  I can't really complain but there's part of me that wishes I was still living in the Netherlands..

Ok, just decided that I will return the Qnap next week.  The software is too crap and it's annoyingly loud as well, spinning the fan way too much.


ojala

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  #1875002 30-Sep-2017 05:52
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One could think that unlimited calls, unlimited texts, and unlimited data is as far as the carriers can go.  How wrong can one be?

 

As you may have read, EU decided to make roaming history in most parts of Europe.  It doesn't mean carriers don't still pay to each other, the prices they pay are going down but they no longer can charge users for it.

 

If you're living in Germany and using T-Mobile with it's generous 30€/month "S" subscription with 1GB/month of high-speed data, fine.  Or even their premium "L+" with a whopping 10GB/month of data for a whopping 70€/month, fine.  But these smart EU ideas don't work too well for countries where 30€/month is considered a lot and no one knows what a data cap is..

 

My girlfriend has an older subscription and it's price had just increased to around 30€/month.  The norm here is that you get a specific price for 12 or 24 months and then it goes up a little bit (+5€/month).  She was unhappy with it and as she'd need EU data, we looked at the offering -- nada.  One would have to pay 30€/month for the first subscription that includes EU data (unlimited data locally, in the Baltics and Nordics, 10 GB/month in rest of EU).

 

So what do you do?

 

You order a new subscription from the competition.  We did that on Sunday couple of weeks ago.

 

On Monday she got a text to contact the existing carrier "for an offer".

 

On Tuesday she received the new SIM card by mail from the new carrier.

 

Tuesday afternoon she called the old carrier, and they offered a subscription that was perfect for her.   Data capped at 50 Mbit/s, unlimited in the Nordics and Baltics, 10 GB/month in rest of EU, unlimited calls and texts.  21€/month.  They don't offer such a subscription on their web page, a similar subscription without the EU data is more expensive.

 

I just did the same this week and got my subscription down 5€/month (-20%), again to a subscription type that's not publicly available.  And we got two new SIM's that we'll never use..  When I called them back, they actually offered extra 2€/month discount because I had so little calls and texts.  The price for unlimited calls and texts is 2€/month.

 

I guess we'll suffer with this sales policy for a year or two while the carriers see how the free EU roaming will effect their bottom line.


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