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  # 603818 2-Apr-2012 13:38
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Yeah, but is there anything that would stop us from putting our fiber modems down in the basement where the fiber terminates, and then plugging our cat5 cable into it (assuming that the cable is indeed a cat5, I'm not sure if it is). As far as the service provider is concerned they are providing a fiber connection.

Another thing we are considering is getting a commercial fiber connection (as it is available on the street), and then distributing that to people in the units (so have a router in the basement). However I have no idea on the economics of this - say we had 15 people paying $100 , so we could spend $1500 per month, what kind of connectivity would that buy you?

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  # 603832 2-Apr-2012 13:52
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jords12: Yeah, but is there anything that would stop us from putting our fiber modems down in the basement where the fiber terminates, and then plugging our cat5 cable into it (assuming that the cable is indeed a cat5, I'm not sure if it is). As far as the service provider is concerned they are providing a fiber connection.

Another thing we are considering is getting a commercial fiber connection (as it is available on the street), and then distributing that to people in the units (so have a router in the basement). However I have no idea on the economics of this - say we had 15 people paying $100 , so we could spend $1500 per month, what kind of connectivity would that buy you?



Installing the ONT in the basement and running cat5e to the apartment isn't a supported scenario (but does have some logic) so it's simply not going to happen unless changes are made.


A body corp buying bandwidth and/or involved in supplying services is very smart and is something that already happens. It's something I deal a lot with.
   

 
 
 
 


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You could probably get a 100/100mbps shared connection with unlimited national bandwidth and 10-20mbps of unlimited international for that price. There is both Telstra and Vector in your street and Telstra would charge probably around $2k for the install on a 2 year contract. In terms of the ISP look for someone who has huge amounts of caching so you can take advantage of that fast national e.g. Callplus, Orcon etc.




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Ok - In that case, would it be OK if I contacted by PM to discuss this more? We would be interested in having somebody manage it. I guess the thing would be how the pricing compares to UFB, but I do like the idea of having the body corp controlling it so we can decide what contention ratio we are happy with etc. (And we won't need to have a profit margin)

We have c.30 units, and I think that a lot of the people here would be interested in high speed connectivity.

Zeon: That seems a little slow compared to the 100mb/s UFB connections - I guess the difference is that it's an unlimited connection without contention (with other customers, not inside our network) Still, you'd want it to be faster than UFB otherwise there's not a lot of point aside from not having to wait for chorus to put it in.

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jords12: Ok - In that case, would it be OK if I contacted by PM to discuss this more? We would be interested in having somebody manage it. I guess the thing would be how the pricing compares to UFB, but I do like the idea of having the body corp controlling it so we can decide what contention ratio we are happy with etc. (And we won't need to have a profit margin)

We have c.30 units, and I think that a lot of the people here would be interested in high speed connectivity.

Zeon: That seems a little slow compared to the 100mb/s UFB connections - I guess the difference is that it's an unlimited connection without contention (with other customers, not inside our network) Still, you'd want it to be faster than UFB otherwise there's not a lot of point aside from not having to wait for chorus to put it in.


Well it will be p2p so it can be easily upgraded beyond 100/100 to whatever you want really. TBH I don't think it will be an issue. We have a shared 100mbps fibre connection in our building between 70 users over 2 businesses and hardly have any issues over lack of available bandwidth.

I'd say with 30 units your best bet is probably to get the fibre connection coming in off the street and put it into a router like PFsense (as always lol). Ask for a routed /27 subnet so you can give everyone their own IP. PFsense has a built in PPPoE server so users just need a username/password and you can then use RADIUS to account for how much traffic they use.




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  # 603939 2-Apr-2012 15:59
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Zeon:
jords12: Ok - In that case, would it be OK if I contacted by PM to discuss this more? We would be interested in having somebody manage it. I guess the thing would be how the pricing compares to UFB, but I do like the idea of having the body corp controlling it so we can decide what contention ratio we are happy with etc. (And we won't need to have a profit margin)

We have c.30 units, and I think that a lot of the people here would be interested in high speed connectivity.

Zeon: That seems a little slow compared to the 100mb/s UFB connections - I guess the difference is that it's an unlimited connection without contention (with other customers, not inside our network) Still, you'd want it to be faster than UFB otherwise there's not a lot of point aside from not having to wait for chorus to put it in.


Well it will be p2p so it can be easily upgraded beyond 100/100 to whatever you want really. TBH I don't think it will be an issue. We have a shared 100mbps fibre connection in our building between 70 users over 2 businesses and hardly have any issues over lack of available bandwidth.

I'd say with 30 units your best bet is probably to get the fibre connection coming in off the street and put it into a router like PFsense (as always lol). Ask for a routed /27 subnet so you can give everyone their own IP. PFsense has a built in PPPoE server so users just need a username/password and you can then use RADIUS to account for how much traffic they use.


You'd probably want a /26 assuming you could support each and every user.  2 for broadcast, one for gateway, one for each user ...

And it's kind of funny when people are saying that 100/100 fibre internet is slow. 



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  # 603951 2-Apr-2012 16:07
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Yeah it is... New Zealand Internet speeds are about to go way, way faster.

 
 
 
 


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  # 603956 2-Apr-2012 16:10
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jords12: Yeah it is... New Zealand Internet speeds are about to go way, way faster.


For local sites and sites cached locally, yep. For Sure.

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