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# 135112 14-Nov-2013 14:16
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I have many Windows PC's and want A/V on them but it seems to get dearer each year. At present I am using Norton 360 which is a great product but for a 10 user licence the price becomes exorbitant.
What are other users that have multiple PC using and do you get a good price for quantities 

 




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  # 933886 14-Nov-2013 14:28
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The Microsoft bundled AV works fine




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  # 933915 14-Nov-2013 15:12
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+1 for microsoft one, you really havent needed to buy antivirus for personal use in years.

 
 
 
 


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  # 933920 14-Nov-2013 15:18
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Microsoft Security Essentials

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  # 933931 14-Nov-2013 15:32
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While I've used the Microsoft security software for the last few years and recommended it to everybody there recent statement from Microsoft that people should look at other solutions is a little concerning.

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  # 933968 14-Nov-2013 16:04
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sbiddle: While I've used the Microsoft security software for the last few years and recommended it to everybody there recent statement from Microsoft that people should look at other solutions is a little concerning.


citation needed...

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  # 933969 14-Nov-2013 16:05
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ronw: I have many Windows PC's and want A/V on them but it seems to get dearer each year. At present I am using Norton 360 which is a great product but for a 10 user licence the price becomes exorbitant.
What are other users that have multiple PC using and do you get a good price for quantities 

 


Sorry, I laughed.

More on-topic, MSSE is actually surprisingly good for being free. If I were to pay for one, it'd be NOD32. You should still be able to find some of the 3-user packs for about $80, otherwise it's about $35/PC/year.



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  # 934033 14-Nov-2013 18:54
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Microsoft security is no longer considered suitable AV protection.
There was a stirr on the net six months ago how it let some commonly blocked virii through. People on forums like this really need to stop recommending it.

Nod32 by eset is a good paid solution. Shop around though because resellers have some room to wiggle the pricing a bit.

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  # 934038 14-Nov-2013 19:12
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Microsoft antimalware products including MSE and Windows Defender are absolutely considered suitable protection.

Developing and tweaking your A/V product specifically for A/V tests doesn’t make users more secure

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2013/10/09/our-commitment-to-microsoft-antimalware.aspx

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  # 934048 14-Nov-2013 19:42
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Dairyxox: Microsoft security is no longer considered suitable AV protection.


It still consistently outperforms many of the popular paid products, such as the home user solutions from Symantec and McAfee. As a free option, it performs very well, and is significantly better than nothing or many of the other free or even paid products (like those aforementioned ones).

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  # 934065 14-Nov-2013 20:17
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Performs well? Depends what function you're measuring. It has about the lowest system performance overheads, but aside from that its generally the worst.

Would you recommend the worst type of any product?

Of course it is better than nothing, but even Microsoft admits it is merely 'baseline' protection, and that everything else should be better (partly because they share their information with other vendors).

Heres some links if you think I'm making this up or this is old outdated advice...
pcpro.co.uk from 25 Sep 2013
PCMag.com from 7 Feb 2013
Zdnet.com from 27 Sep 2013
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QUOTE: Conclusions
Simon Edwards, Technical Director of Dennis Technology Labs, observed "It’s interesting to see how badly Microsoft does in the consumer and enterprise tests, particularly when noting that its products also fared poorly in the last AV-Test report. As you no doubt know Microsoft was dismissive of that test but my view is that if lots of different tests, from competing test houses that use different methodologies/approaches, reach similar conclusions then those conclusions start to be appear increasingly convincing."

I have to agree. In my own hands-on testing, Microsoft Security Essentials has never performed well. At the other end, Norton Internet Security is both a PCMag Editors' Choice and the only product to receive the top AAA rating in the Dennis Labs test. Kaspersky and ESET, both of which took AA ratings, also do well in my tests.
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Not saying I dont respect Microsofts work in security (I especially like the lengths they've gone to in the past to close botnets), but I would not recommend their Security product to anyone interested in security.

The people that go smugly recommending it for years without realising the implications need to be woken up.

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  # 934069 14-Nov-2013 20:24
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nathan: Microsoft antimalware products including MSE and Windows Defender are absolutely considered suitable protection.

Developing and tweaking your A/V product specifically for A/V tests doesn’t make users more secure

http://blogs.technet.com/b/mmpc/archive/2013/10/09/our-commitment-to-microsoft-antimalware.aspx



Given some of the posts your's hasn't convinced me MS is that great, your link certainly didn't anyway and was kind of hypocritical given your comment 




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  # 934082 14-Nov-2013 20:50
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Back on topic of multiple licences. I could sell you 10x licences of Nod32 for $250 total.
RRP is about $323.00.

If you want to buy more than 1 years subscription the costs come down even more...
For example 10x licences of Nod32 for 3 years, is $520.00 total (and I'm still making a tiny profit).
Thats just $17 per year per computer. And someone else still might sell it cheaper!.

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  # 934085 14-Nov-2013 20:54
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Common Sense is still a good AV program, it comes bundled with most (not all) humans free of charge.




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  # 934087 14-Nov-2013 20:54
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suggestions:
-run a modern OS
-run a modern web browser
-run as a standard user not local admin
-train your users not to do dumb things
-run the Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit

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