sbiddle:

wasabi2k:

sbiddle: While I've used the Microsoft security software for the last few years and recommended it to everybody there recent statement from Microsoft that people should look at other solutions is a little concerning.

citation needed...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/384394/microsoft-security-essentials-is-designed-to-be-bottom-of-the-antivirus-rankings

This is the original source of the story - this was then big new which every tech site on the internet then reported on this extensively last month. You clearly don't read many tech news sites!

wasabi2k:

sbiddle:

wasabi2k:

sbiddle: While I've used the Microsoft security software for the last few years and recommended it to everybody there recent statement from Microsoft that people should look at other solutions is a little concerning.

citation needed...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/384394/microsoft-security-essentials-is-designed-to-be-bottom-of-the-antivirus-rankings

This is the original source of the story - this was then big new which every tech site on the internet then reported on this extensively last month. You clearly don't read many tech news sites!

Thanks for bringing that article to my attention, I wasn't aware of it. However as has been discussed it certainly does look like someone sensationalizing and twisting an honest interview for clicks.

As to your next point, I do read a lot of tech news sites, thanks for your concern. However PCPRO certainly isn't on that list, neither are any other sites backed up a magazine asking me to subscribe on every article. However this interview didn't hit slashdot or the register, both of which I rate significantly better than PCPRO, so I guess that's why I missed it.

Have a super day!

nathan: suggestions:
-run a modern OS
-run a modern web browser
-run as a standard user not local admin
-train your users not to do dumb things
-run the Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit

freitasm: not trying to reach 100% scores in artificial tests. .

freitasm: Saw that EMET 4.1 was just released this week - does it work on Windows 8.1?

nathan:

freitasm: Saw that EMET 4.1 was just released this week - does it work on Windows 8.1?

EMET 4.1 supports the following operating systems and service pack levels:

Client Operating Systems
• Windows XP service pack 3 and above
• Windows Vista service pack 1 and above
• Windows 7 all service packs
• Windows 8

Server Operation Systems
• Windows Server 2003 service pack 1 and above
• Windows Server 2008 all service packs
• Windows Server 2008 R2 all
• Windows Server 2012

timmmay: I wonder if the "out of box security provided by windows 7" includes Microsoft Antivirus. I guess it does, since it does block some viruses.

I use the Microsoft one, I haven't had a virus yet. I used nod32 for years, I think one slipped through. For a year I didn't use any antivirus, didn't get anything. I think I got one of a floppy years ago.

What I find on my parents computers is they somehow get tricked into installing toolbars that confuse things and slow them down. I wish there was a way to block those. Or maybe I need some kind of a corporate policy server to stop them doing stupid things...