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# 143003 31-Mar-2014 17:31
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I need to make my Desktop wireless.

Whats best? Wifi pci card or wifi USB dongle?



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  # 1016131 31-Mar-2014 17:42
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USB ones are great




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  # 1016133 31-Mar-2014 17:44
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Would you get good speeds out of a USB dongle?

Two rooms away from modem, would i still get 50mbps?

 
 
 
 


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  # 1016134 31-Mar-2014 17:49
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Get a PCI WiFi card and keep your USB port free.
The PCI wireless card will be as good as the aerial you attach to it - many variations available.
The main advantage of a USB dongle is that you can use it on multiple PCs, if that's what you need.




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  # 1016135 31-Mar-2014 17:49
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simon14: Would you get good speeds out of a USB dongle?

Two rooms away from modem, would i still get 50mbps?

No.




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  # 1016137 31-Mar-2014 17:50
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I believe that WiFI PCI cards suck fewer CPU cycles, but they have fallen out of favour as USB WiFi dongles are cheaper and simpler for the hairy masses.  I've not seen a wireless PCI card for a couple of years.  Also the antenna being stuck behind the metal chassis isn't the best and an external antenna is just too much for the average consumer to cope with.

If you are a techie and can find a reasonably priced card, I would go PCIe with an antenna on a short lead so the antenna is not stuck behind the case.  (Note you can also get USB wifi adapters that have a connection for an external antenna like this one http://www.snappernet.co.nz/product/wua-0614 that I have on my garage PC.  I have used a small directional antenna to boost connection quality.

Because I only use computers for business stuff and am not worried about the slight CPU overhead that USB devices add, I've just been using USB (on an extension cord with a heavy base like this one:

http://www.dynamix.co.nz/index.html?do=viewproduct&code=C-USBEXT&ID=85269902

The 5GHz wireless band is less congested than the standard 2.4GHz band.  If maximum throughput is important to you, see if your router supports 5ghz wireless and go for a 5ghz adapter or one that supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz if your budget allows.  For general web surfing you would not notice any difference.




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Just bought one of these and I am really pleased with it. 
http://www.pcforce.co.nz/tplink-300mbps-wireless-n-pci-express-adapter-p-1978.html
In the same room as the router admittedly, but it is saying it is connected at 270 Mbps.
Easy to install, runs fine under windows and linux. Also it is tiny in the case compared to the PCI ones. Most computers from the last 5 or so years should have a few PCI-E 1x slots.
Also, antenna's screw off so if you want to replace them with something bigger, you can.
Your local PC shop should have a good selection of PCI/pci-e or usb ones around pick at least a 300 mbps one to take advantage of dual channels and hopefully better reception with dual antennas.




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  # 1017021 2-Apr-2014 10:17
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simon14: Would you get good speeds out of a USB dongle?

Two rooms away from modem, would i still get 50mbps?


Why do you need that sort of speed ? What use is a speed faster than your hard drive, many times faster than your internet

2 rooms away, so thats 2 sets of walls to block the signal. Might work perfectly, might be barely usable.
You wont know till you try.
5Ghz will be worse at going through multiple walls , you would also need a new wifi AccessPoint & new wifi dongles/pci card for 5Ghz.

The other option is a homeplug kit, where the network goes through the 240v mains lines. Can be pricey but do work very well


 
 
 
 


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  # 1017032 2-Apr-2014 10:43
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My phone (S4) is connected through two walls (plus another wall with an open door) to my Fritzbox at 150Mbs.

1101: 
Why do you need that sort of speed ? What use is a speed faster than your hard drive, many times faster than your internet

2 rooms away, so thats 2 sets of walls to block the signal. Might work perfectly, might be barely usable.
You wont know till you try.
5Ghz will be worse at going through multiple walls , you would also need a new wifi AccessPoint & new wifi dongles/pci card for 5Ghz.

The other option is a homeplug kit, where the network goes through the 240v mains lines. Can be pricey but do work very well



Spinning hard drives are around 1gbps, ssd's around 3gbps, just FYI.

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timmmay:

Spinning hard drives are around 1gbps,


Nonsense. Just FYI.
Go and look at some manufacturers specs .
Sata controller & USB3 speeds have little to do with real life data thoughput speeds on HD's btw

It did misread his original post, 50Mbs is certainly a unreasonable speed to want. My bad
Doesnt mean its actually needed though .


Heres a random real world test of read speeds on SSD, write speeds could be lower.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-charts-2013/CrystalDiskMark-Sequential-Read,2796.html

real life read speeds of HD's, note just how low a read speed it can get, I'd imagine average laptop HD's would be even lower
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-01-Read-Throughput-Average-h2benchw-3.16,2901.html

Just because your wifi works through 2 walls , doesnt mean it will allways work through 2 walls, sometimes the signal loss is too much.
As per the wifi I tested in a small shop the other day, concrete walls, so didnt work well enough to be usuable.
even something as simple as a bookshelf full of books can be enough to block it.
Sometimes it works just fine, some sites Ive been involved with wifi was never reliable, even in the next room.

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  # 1017287 2-Apr-2014 15:39
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1101:
timmmay:

Spinning hard drives are around 1gbps,


Nonsense. Just FYI.
Go and look at some manufacturers specs .
Sata controller & USB3 speeds have little to do with real life data thoughput speeds on HD's btw


Heres a random real world test of read speeds on SSD, write speeds could be lower.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-charts-2013/CrystalDiskMark-Sequential-Read,2796.html

real life read speeds of HD's, note just how low a read speed it can get, I'd imagine average laptop HD's would be even lower
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/hdd-charts-2013/-01-Read-Throughput-Average-h2benchw-3.16,2901.html

Just because your wifi works through 2 walls , doesnt mean it will allways work through 2 walls, sometimes the signal loss is too much.
As per the wifi I tested in a small shop the other day, concrete walls, so didnt work well enough to be usuable.
even something as simple as a bookshelf full of books can be enough to block it.
Sometimes it works just fine, some sites Ive been involved with wifi was never reliable, even in the next room.


Here's a benchmark on my SSD, I have one for my WD black drive that shows just under half the speed. Don't forget b is bits, B is bytes



500MBps x 8 (byte to bit) = 4mbps.

And yip all walls are different, mine are just wood so easy for signals to penetrate.

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  # 1017296 2-Apr-2014 16:02
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Go for a USB 300mbitt one if you can. TP Link have a 150mbit USB dongle which you can attach a bigger antenna to.
They also come with some 1m usb extention cables so you can velcro them to the back of the monitor and get better coverage.




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