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Topic # 196486 1-Jun-2016 22:30
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Is that good or what!


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  Reply # 1563906 1-Jun-2016 22:31
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Dunno, is it?




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  Reply # 1563907 1-Jun-2016 22:37
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Estimated performance to lie between GTX 970 and 980 for half the price ... I guess it depends whether you are on a budget or want the best performance ... in which case, no it isn't.


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  Reply # 1563909 1-Jun-2016 23:00
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epeen extender is a great way of describing it! 

 

 

 

On a more serious note, lets look at benchmarking shown... 

 

 

 

 

simply put, ashes of the singularity is well known for favouring AMD cards.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3077432/components-graphics/polaris-confirmed-amds-200-radeon-card-will-bring-high-end-graphics-to-the-masses.html

 

 

 

 

 

im still awaiting the third party 1080s to hit for my next jump...





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  Reply # 1566192 5-Jun-2016 21:42
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hio77:

 

 

 

epeen extender is a great way of describing it! 

 

 

 

On a more serious note, lets look at benchmarking shown... 

 

 

 

 

simply put, ashes of the singularity is well known for favouring AMD cards.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3077432/components-graphics/polaris-confirmed-amds-200-radeon-card-will-bring-high-end-graphics-to-the-masses.html

 

 

 

 

 

im still awaiting the third party 1080s to hit for my next jump...

 

 

 

 

Yes Ashes is more suited to AMD hardware because it supports the DX12 feature known as asynchronous compute, a feature found on AMD gcn architecture, while it appears Nvidia's pascal has implemented this to a basic extent (emulation) it's still a poor cousin to the GCNs implementation.

 

With all that being said if we break down the numbers above we see that in ashes of the singularity we are getting a scaling factor of 1.83x with crossfire (confirmed by AMD) 

 

This means:

 

1080/RX 480: 1080 is 42% faster, costs 200% more. 

 

1080/1070: 1080 25% faster, costs 58% more.

 

1070/RX 480: 1070 14% faster, costs 90% more.

 

Thats amazing value looking at it considering Nvidia did improve their performance on ashes with Pascal and if what AMD are saying is correct we are looking at a card faster than the GTX980 with a price tag of 350-380nzd dollars (or $300 if you wanted to grab it from amazon).


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  Reply # 1566208 5-Jun-2016 22:40
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I dunno, well see how the prices play out but it looks like AMD has messed up. It's supposed to be 150 watt which is close to 1070 but performance seems to be a lot less. TSMC 16 mm process that nvidia uses seems to be better than 14nm global foundries AMD uses.

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  Reply # 1566211 5-Jun-2016 22:50
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This makes me think about the next console generation. I'm guessing the competitors are looking at each other on the line for the sprint to the first mass market VR console.



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  Reply # 1566214 5-Jun-2016 22:56
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When my kids grow up they will be gaming in their sleep


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  Reply # 1566223 5-Jun-2016 23:35
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Dairyxox: I dunno, well see how the prices play out but it looks like AMD has messed up. It's supposed to be 150 watt which is close to 1070 but performance seems to be a lot less. TSMC 16 mm process that nvidia uses seems to be better than 14nm global foundries AMD uses.

 

 

 

We don't know the power consumption data yet but it will be SUB 150w as it has a 6 pin power connector 75W and 75w from the pcie bus so 150w will be the max it's physically capable of pulling. It will be less in terms of performance but alot less is speculation let me explain why

 

Amd didn't just shrink the hawaii (GCN 1.1) to 14nm they updated their architecture ie added a primitive discard accelerator, hardware scheduler, instruction pre-fetch, memory compression and better shader efficiency. I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that we will get 5.5 Tflops or so and with the improvements to GCN more focused on gaming and less on raw compute we should be looking at decent performance gains from GCN1.1 in the same tfop range. With all this put together I am guessing performance above the current r9 390x and perhaps even up to the Fury (non x) in 1080p and 1440p titles.

 

Will it be slower than a 1070 yes most likely but at half the price so much much better performance per $.

 

 


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  Reply # 1566227 5-Jun-2016 23:48

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Is that good or what!

 

 

Yes. It seems pretty good (so far) for a GTX950-960 price level competitor.

 

I definitely want AMD to be competitive with Nvidia.

 

It isn't good for consumers when one manufacturer dominates the market.

 

I just hope the Zen CPUs also provide good competition to Intel.

 

Intel have had it all their own way for too long.


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Dont buy a graphics card now. Give it a couple of weeks. 

 

Personally I have gone off AMD cards, had a few average ones over the years, they did well with bitcoins though.

 

You will get what you pay for too some of those stats are a bit misleading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8

 

If you can afford to spend a bit more I would buy an nVidia GTX1070 over a RX480. But if you dont want to spend that much on a card then yeh RX480 seems ok. 






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  Reply # 1566751 6-Jun-2016 21:21
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darylblake:

 

Dont buy a graphics card now. Give it a couple of weeks. 

 

Personally I have gone off AMD cards, had a few average ones over the years, they did well with bitcoins though.

 

You will get what you pay for too some of those stats are a bit misleading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5wYVu-tM8

 

If you can afford to spend a bit more I would buy an nVidia GTX1070 over a RX480. But if you dont want to spend that much on a card then yeh RX480 seems ok. 

 

 

 

 

Why would you buy a GTX1070 over the RX480? they are not really in the same price bracket, we are talking about a card that will retail for around $400-$450NZD vs a card that will retail for $900-$1000NZD. 




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  Reply # 1566788 6-Jun-2016 21:57
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If they retail for NZD400-450 guess what - they won't sell many locally ...


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  Reply # 1566791 6-Jun-2016 22:00
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joker97:

 

If they retail for NZD400-450 guess what - they won't sell many locally ...

 

 

At a guess with the NZ Mark up and GST :) as they are under the $400 at a guess we are looking at $300-$320 shipped from amazon not at all where the 1070 is priced.


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  Reply # 1570608 12-Jun-2016 19:11
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Some more leaks from china with the RX480 this one is running at 1080mhz so presumably it is an engineering sample that is BIOS locked as during the benchmark it stays between 40-50 degrees if this is accurate if it gets released at 1266mhz this is one fast card.

 

 

 RX480 1080MHz


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  Reply # 1571210 13-Jun-2016 18:24
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hio77:

 

 

 

epeen extender is a great way of describing it! 

 

 

 

On a more serious note, lets look at benchmarking shown... 

 

 

 

 

simply put, ashes of the singularity is well known for favouring AMD cards.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3077432/components-graphics/polaris-confirmed-amds-200-radeon-card-will-bring-high-end-graphics-to-the-masses.html

 

 

 

 

 

im still awaiting the third party 1080s to hit for my next jump...

 

 

 

 

Did you notice that's 2 x RX480?


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