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  # 1781910 14-May-2017 13:22
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 Wonder how none of the experts thought of that, and it was basically a kid who found at least a partial fix.?


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  # 1781924 14-May-2017 13:54
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mattwnz:

 

 Wonder how none of the experts thought of that, and it was basically a kid who found at least a partial fix.?

 

 

because it was only the domain in clear text, it was not clear what the calls to the site were actually doing, - enabling the domain  might have enabled a second "delete everything" package....

 

He took a punt and it worked..... and even he admits he had no idea what enabing the domain actually was going to do.....

 

 

 

I am not sure you can criticise experts for not doing something when they had no idea what would happen if they did....


 
 
 
 


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  # 1781933 14-May-2017 14:57
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As in, what was already happening was okay? 

 

 





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  # 1781947 14-May-2017 15:57
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Rikkitic:

 

As in, what was already happening was okay? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As in if you paid you would get your data back

 

vs

 

Who knows, maybe its all permanently gone.


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  # 1781985 14-May-2017 16:48
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wellygary:

mattwnz:


 Wonder how none of the experts thought of that, and it was basically a kid who found at least a partial fix.?



because it was only the domain in clear text, it was not clear what the calls to the site were actually doing, - enabling the domain  might have enabled a second "delete everything" package....


He took a punt and it worked..... and even he admits he had no idea what enabing the domain actually was going to do.....


 


I am not sure you can criticise experts for not doing something when they had no idea what would happen if they did....



But it still could have at least been tried. Sounds like all it would take was 10 minutes to register the domain and 15 dollars. It often takes someone thinking outside the box to find some solution. . It is probably why hackers are often employed by software security companies, as they have a different way of thinking, than someone trained, and often following a particular process.

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  # 1781986 14-May-2017 16:59
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If they wanted to test it in their lab there was no need to register it, just stick it on their labs DNS server.

 

I wonder what effect this would have had on the work operating on wifi hotspots etc that seem to always resolve domains back to their splash page tho?





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  # 1782106 14-May-2017 20:11
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Rikkitic:

 

Second is that the customer is always right.

 

 

I couldn't disagree more. 

 

Customers are often quite wrong. Even though they think they're right, you can't change the laws of physics for them. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1782109 14-May-2017 20:26
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mattwnz:
wellygary:

mattwnz:


 Wonder how none of the experts thought of that, and it was basically a kid who found at least a partial fix.?



because it was only the domain in clear text, it was not clear what the calls to the site were actually doing, - enabling the domain  might have enabled a second "delete everything" package....


He took a punt and it worked..... and even he admits he had no idea what enabing the domain actually was going to do.....


 


I am not sure you can criticise experts for not doing something when they had no idea what would happen if they did....



But it still could have at least been tried. Sounds like all it would take was 10 minutes to register the domain and 15 dollars. It often takes someone thinking outside the box to find some solution. . It is probably why hackers are often employed by software security companies, as they have a different way of thinking, than someone trained, and often following a particular process.

22 years old that guy. Don't know why anyone is calling him a kid. And he works for a security company.

Anyway. It provided an easy way to deactivate all this malware on an internal network. Just pretend the site exists, no more problems.

Not anymore, the malware has been re-released without that problem.

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  # 1782163 15-May-2017 01:26
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Next wave of malware is out without the remote kill switch. Patch your/your parents/your pets/your friends pc's.





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  # 1782349 15-May-2017 10:32
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SaltyNZ:

 

Andib:

 

Tell me again how Windows 7 is better than Windows 10.

 

 

 

 

Much less telemetry, and it doesn't insist on pushing Cortana onto you for everything?

 

 

I'd actually enjoy Cortana on my machine. Too bad there is nothing available for "English (New Zealand)" three years and counting...


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  # 1782368 15-May-2017 10:42
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timmmay:

 

lapimate:

 

Isn't that bald statement a bit simplistic, for example the backup should not be accessible via one's network?

 

 

To me a backup is only a backup if it's offsite, offline, and incremental. Anything else is a copy. Most cloud backup tools are online, so I class them as a copy, though the ones that have incremental / versioning are pretty good.

 

 

What does an offsite, offline, incremental backup solution look like? Sounds to me like a pain in the ass drive over to another facility with a bunch of HDDs.


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  # 1782369 15-May-2017 10:43
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Andib:

 

Tell me again how Windows 7 is better than Windows 10.

 

 

Win 7 does everything I need it to do.

 

Win 7 is more suitable/faster on my hardware.

 

Win 7 does not need me to relearn how to work/control windows.

 

Win 7 works with all my software.

 

Win 7 does not treat my 3G/4G data connection like it is an unlimited fibre connection.

 

Tell me again how Windows 10 is better, but this time tell me in engineering terms, not fashion terms.

 

 

 

 


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  # 1782452 15-May-2017 12:10
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Rikkitic:

 

Second is that the customer is always right.

 

 

I couldn't disagree more. 

 

Customers are often quite wrong. Even though they think they're right, you can't change the laws of physics for them. 

 

 

You guys are looking at this from different points of view - neither view is wrong or right:

 

1) Commerce: Make money. i.e. The customer is always right - sell the customer what they want.

 

2) Technician: Solve problems. i.e. Give the customer an easy solution to the problem.

 

There are times when point of view #1 should prevail and times when point of view #2 is appropriate. In the real world a single point of view can not universally prevail.

 

My sister-in-law works for a commercial printing company. They have a $100K(ish) printing machine that only works with Windows XP and has plenty of mechanical life left in it. They're not going to throw away a $100K, money making asset because an IT guy will only/can only deal with Windows 10. So point of view #1 must prevail for financial reasons and anyone who refuses to work with them is giving away work/money. 

 

If the customer is needlessly costing themselves money, then ethically view #2 should prevail.

 

You need to understand this if you one day want to have your managers job.


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  # 1782465 15-May-2017 12:15
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That's fine if the machine doesnt go on the internet at all.

 

I know people with CNC's that need XP, or in one case 2000 on the computer driving them. The machines are not networked, and the files are taken to them on a USB drive.

 

Its when people do stupid things like allow unsupported operating systems to browse the net or have email or be on the same lan as computers with customer data etc that the IT staff have to tell them no.





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  # 1782554 15-May-2017 13:58
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tripper1000:

 

 

 

 

 

Andib:

 

Tell me again how Windows 7 is better than Windows 10.

 

 

Win 7 does everything I need it to do.

 

Win 7 is more suitable/faster on my hardware.

 

Win 7 does not need me to relearn how to work/control windows.

 

Win 7 works with all my software.

 

Win 7 does not treat my 3G/4G data connection like it is an unlimited fibre connection.

 

Tell me again how Windows 10 is better, but this time tell me in engineering terms, not fashion terms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

those were exactly my reasons , then i built a gaming machine and put windows 10 in it and now i dont miss windows 7 at all , in fact after 6 months if a go on a windows 7 pc im lost, all my programs work and it takes 5 to 10 seconds from turning my pc on to using it. 





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