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  Reply # 1944486 21-Jan-2018 19:20
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Just thought I'd say this, after this issue (computer on auto update) i noticed the motherboard wasn't working properly. Fans not going, CPU heating up +++, programs loading sluggish.

 

Found that Asus had a BIOS update that included "updated CPU microcode".

 

Flashed the BIOS and things are better again. but temperatures are still a bit higher. Maybe needs new thermal paste?


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  Reply # 1944489 21-Jan-2018 19:52
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Which proc?

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  Reply # 1944499 21-Jan-2018 20:59
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win 10 x64

 

i7 6700k

 

asus maximus alpha hero viii


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  Reply # 1944500 21-Jan-2018 21:00
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SO, will waiting for 9th gen CPUs fix the "up to 30%" speed loss issue?

 

if so they better not come up with a 9th gen with no other improvements!


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  Reply # 1945940 24-Jan-2018 11:35
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This pisses me off the more I think about it.

 

I've got a i7 PC which performs just fantastically, I wouldn't normally upgrade for another year or two.

 

But there is no chance it will get the BIOS update as its 1 generation behind what the motherboard manufacturer intends to support (even though intel will make updated microcode for it).

 

So I'm pretty much forced to upgrade the CPU (wont be cheap to get something better than what I've got now), mainboard, and memory too. F that.


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  Reply # 1945946 24-Jan-2018 11:50
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/23/16922530/linus-torvalds-intel-spectre-cpu-fixes-comment

 

"“As it is, the patches are COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE,”

 

" The Register points out that Intel’s future processors, at least for a few years, will ship vulnerable to Spectre and will include a flag that can be set in software so operating systems can protect against the vulnerabilities. Intel is essentially treating protection against Spectre as an optional feature, rather than a security bug that should be addressed."

 

 


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  Reply # 1947343 26-Jan-2018 21:29
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Chrome64 released with some protection for processors and advice for developers:

https://www.chromium.org/Home/chromium-security/ssca

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  Reply # 1947347 26-Jan-2018 22:10
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Dairyxox:

 

This pisses me off the more I think about it.

 

I've got a i7 PC which performs just fantastically, I wouldn't normally upgrade for another year or two.

 

But there is no chance it will get the BIOS update as its 1 generation behind what the motherboard manufacturer intends to support (even though intel will make updated microcode for it).

 

So I'm pretty much forced to upgrade the CPU (wont be cheap to get something better than what I've got now), mainboard, and memory too. F that.

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage - there are ways of updating the microcode without doing a BIOS update, Microsoft may end up doing it through Windows Update as Intel improve the mitigation and get their rebooting issue sorted. Even a VMware tool which

 

Also there is clever stuff going on at the software level too; browsers are disabling their high resolution time sources which mitigates browser based attacks, Google's 'Retpoline' mitigation technique etc

 

 


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  Reply # 1947397 27-Jan-2018 06:15
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Intel announces new chips will ship this year:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3251171/components-processors/intels-plan-to-fix-meltdown-in-silicon-raises-more-questions-than-answers.html

PC World is expecting the speed loss will be baked in.

Meanwhile Intel is saying 'don't install the first version of the patch' and several major vendors have removed it from their sites.

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  Reply # 1948046 29-Jan-2018 09:59
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  Reply # 1948073 29-Jan-2018 11:24
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wow an update to disable an update!


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  Reply # 1948079 29-Jan-2018 11:28
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after some googling I just read that the rebooting issue is with the haswell and broadwell cpus. Luckily my haswell laptop is set to manual updates and I havent gotten round to applying the patch. my 6000 series cpu has not been rebooting so that was good as that one's on auto update.


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  Reply # 1948134 29-Jan-2018 13:37
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after some googling I just read that the rebooting issue is with the haswell and broadwell cpus. Luckily my haswell laptop is set to manual updates and I havent gotten round to applying the patch. my 6000 series cpu has not been rebooting so that was good as that one's on auto update.

 

 

Sadly the reboot idssue is not just haswell and broadwell, thats just what it was initially reported as being on.

 

Intel have stated it also affects "Ivy Bridge-, Sandy Bridge-, Skylake-, and Kaby Lake-based platforms".

 

Their latest recommendation linked above it to stop deployment of updated microcode.


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  Reply # 1948140 29-Jan-2018 14:02
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I'm glad I decided to wait and see. Fortunately nothing I do is important and nothing I have is critical. If I get wiped out, I will just start over. If someone steals my access codes, they will just get very bored. This kind of thing is the reason I still don't use Internet banking. 

 

 





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