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# 251681 6-Jul-2019 13:55
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Just wondering about keeping another pc as a backup so I can still access my emails.

 

I have an xtra email account that is setup as IMAP and I use MS Outlook to get the emails.

 

If I setup another pc and I will put thunderbird on it to use if my main computer crashes, how will the email syncing be affected.

 

So what I mean is, if I install thunderbird and use IMAP then bring down the emails from xtra's servers and then not use the pc for a while, because my main computer is working.

 

What will happen with the emails when I go to use the back up pc because my main pc failed.

 

When I open up thunderbird, the emails will sync but will I get the new stuff or will the emails that are on thunderbird actually sync and replace what is on xtra, so essentially current emails are being replaced with old emails because I haven't synced the old computer for several months.

 

Does that make sense to anyone. Or is there a better way of doing it.

 

Thanks

 

Ford

 

 

 

 


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  # 2271054 6-Jul-2019 14:06
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With IMAP they stay on the server and base on that. So whichever PC you use or do work on also updates the server, so if you fire up the computer with old stuff it will just re-sync i.e add or delete.




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  # 2271067 6-Jul-2019 14:29
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So what you are saying is that on my backup pc thunderbird will match with whatever the xtra server has on it at the time when I sync it. So there is no danger of xtra servers current emails being overwritten by the outdated thunderbird emails because I haven't used it in a while.

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2271257 7-Jul-2019 09:32
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Ford:

 

So what you are saying is that on my backup pc thunderbird will match with whatever the xtra server has on it at the time when I sync it. So there is no danger of xtra servers current emails being overwritten by the outdated thunderbird emails because I haven't used it in a while.

 

 

While what you say is correct and will meet your current needs,  it does not address your vulnerability to Spark discontinuing the xtra domain.  With the emergence of dedicated email services (such as GMAIL), ISP-provided email servers have been rendered redundant by users moving to ISP-independent dedicated email services such as GMAIL.  You can wait until Spark send you notification that the xtra server is going to be shut down (most if not all the other NZ-based ISPs have already discontinued their email services) or you can move at your own pace in your own time first.

 

There is the inconvenience of changing your email address, but it is likely to be the last time ever, and mitigated by automatic forwarding of all incoming emails from Xtra to your new address.  Your new email address remains constant and you are free to change ISPs at will.  Your email database is held on the service-providers servers and can be accessed from multiple devices - PC, phone or tablet or whatever future hardware comes along.





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  # 2271851 8-Jul-2019 14:09
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OldGeek:

 

You can wait until Spark send you notification that the xtra server is going to be shut down.....

 

 

just baseless scaremongering .


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  # 2271854 8-Jul-2019 14:20
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You can also use Mailstore Home to archive email which is on servers or on your local machine. It stores it in a bunch of files, which it indexes, and is suitable for archiving.

 

I backup my IMAP servers, Gmail, and Thunderbird local folders using MailStore Home. I archive new mail every few months. Once an archive is done I back up that archive to offsite storage as part of my normal backup routine.




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  # 2307099 28-Aug-2019 00:51
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Thanks

 

 


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  # 2307118 28-Aug-2019 08:04
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1101:

 

OldGeek:

 

You can wait until Spark send you notification that the xtra server is going to be shut down.....

 

 

just baseless scaremongering .

 

 

Xtra does not exist any more, dropped as a brand so could be considered by Spark to be a legacy service provided by a predecessor company (Telecom NZ).  This server costs Spark to run (however minimal) and generates no revenue.  IIRC all other NZ ISPs offered a similar service now discontinued.  There are more modern free options.  Baseless scaremongering this is not.





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  # 2307219 28-Aug-2019 11:51
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OldGeek:

 

Xtra does not exist any more, dropped as a brand so could be considered by Spark to be a legacy service provided by a predecessor company (Telecom NZ).  This server costs Spark to run (however minimal) and generates no revenue.  IIRC all other NZ ISPs offered a similar service now discontinued.  There are more modern free options.  Baseless scaremongering this is not.

 

 

doesnt exist , and yet
https://www.spark.co.nz/xtramail/signin

 

xtra is still a brand for them, the 'free' email is  part of their selling point as an ISP , mainly for older users .

 

Spark dont host it on their servers btw.
Spark know full well that dropping xtra email will cost them considerably in lost customers.
That email is the ONLY reason many stick with Spark, rather than move to much cheaper ISP's . Dropping xtra email support will nudge many into looking at other ISP's

 

There Zero, I repeat, ZERO evidence that Spark will close this email service.
Despite all the many years of ongoing issues, going all the way back to when MS hosted it for them, they have never even hinted that xtra email would be shut down.

 

so, scaremongering it is

 

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